Off Topic Boxing
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Bradley vs Provodnikov from a couple of years ago was a belter. Froch's best fight for me was against Pascal in his first title win, was reminiscent of Benn/Eubank
Anyone heard anything more on the David Haye comeback? After being gone for three years, he looks to have a bit of a climb back, especially as he's in his mid thirties. The layoff has dropped him from all rankings, so it's hard to say where he'd fit in. Even with time away against him, surely he's a decent match for both Fury and Joshua, but I can't see either of these guys wanting him at the moment. If Fury gets beaten by Klitschko then maybe a London bout against Haye might be the go. It would pack then in. And you wouldn't think Joshua would want to go anywhere near him as he (Joshua) is in Wilder country now.
Last I heard he was due back in November but I can't see that happening now as I think it would have been announced by now. There's been a few issues with regards what level he'll come back to. He's admitted himself he's not foolish enough to think he can go straight into a world title or eliminator but has said if and when he does come back he wants to make sure they're worthwhile fights, working towards a title fight. I think he could come back tomorrow and wipe out Fury. Joshua is still well and truly in the potential stage and I agree he won't want to risk Haye, he's very quick for a heavyweight and a very big puncher.
Haye is a joke (at heavyweight) but has managed his profile very well. 28 career fights and never really fought anyone of note outside a solid journeyman in Monte Barrett, John Ruiz who was almost 40 I think when Haye fought him, Ruiz would of had no trouble dispatching Haye a few years earlier by the way, and of coarse he ran from Klitschko for a dozen rounds.
I kinda lost respect for Haye after his failure to back up his words against Klitschko. Really and truly he is too small to be the best heavyweight but he can certainly beat the slower fighters out there.
I hope Wilder keeps building the hype because he doesn't have the chin to cope with a top class fighter.
I hope Wilder keeps building the hype because he doesn't have the chin to cope with a top class fighter.
He dispatched Chisora in a far more impressive manner than that joke of a man Fury. And Chisora is slightly above average. Even a Haye on the comeback trail is better than 95% of the heavyweights out there.
And even in his early 30's he is still the best athlete out there, and is pretty much a fresh fighter despite his age.
What makes you think he hasn't got a chin Toppy; have you seen him take a punch? Just watched his knockouts. I suspect he has been fighting bums but he does look rather fearsome.
I used to love Boxing but it has become like WWWrestling.
Tell the punters they are seeing a real fight and they'll believe it.
The biggest fight of the decade was a joke. I'd rather go down Ward's Irish House and see two drunken girls knocking 7 shades of **** out of each other (I wouldn't actually because i think it degrades them and everyone in the place, but at least I'd see more passion).
Tell the punters they are seeing a real fight and they'll believe it.
The biggest fight of the decade was a joke. I'd rather go down Ward's Irish House and see two drunken girls knocking 7 shades of **** out of each other (I wouldn't actually because i think it degrades them and everyone in the place, but at least I'd see more passion).
Hang on a minute though, Wilder is a world champion. I don't think they just hand out WBC belts if you ask nicely, so it's safe to say he's lived up to some of the hype.
They kind of do just hand them out though. Despite being champion Wilder stil hasn't really fought anyone and is untested that's how poor the heavyweight division is
When I say the hype- I'm talking about the American hype of those guys thinking he is the second coming. It's a long time since Lewis-Holyfield II and Lewis-Tyson. Deontay Wilder can bang, no doubt about it, but any of you thinking he is up to beating a top class heavyweight clearly didn't see the blown up chubby Latino who stunned him with just the one punch that he landed. He doesn't have the legs and I'm very confident that a class heavyweight can beat him.
I guess there is a feeling of hypocritical because I'm putting Wilder and Hype in the same sentence and on the other hand I'm saying Joshua is the next biggest heavyweight star before he has even faced a champion or won a championship. Sometimes, you just know. Joshua still has some learning to do on his journey and I think it's 12 months-18 months (back end 2016) until he has a title shot. It's heavyweight boxing and he might yet get put down himself before he reaches the end goal, but unlike so many of the bums from the heavyweight division of the past 10 years, this guy has the physique, the athleticism, the power, and the amateur (Olympic Gold Medal) pedigree.
I hope Wilder continues unbeaten because I'm almost certain that he will be stopped by Joshua when their careers collide, but we aren't quite at that point yet. Ignore the media when it comes to Joshua and just listen to him and watch him- he is every bit the real deal. Feet firmly on the ground, putting in the hard yards to get to the heavyweight championship.
We don't know how good Joshua is, but if hype is anything, he's the best thing since sliced bread. His up coming fight against Gary Cornish probably won't give us any further info on young Anthony's quality either. Cornish is well on his way to being 30 years of age and has fought nobody. That says heaps. I don't know how true it is, but I've read that Joshua has not been at ease against heavy punching folk who crowd him and assault his head. Until he steps up against someone at least of the quality of Dillian Whyte, we won't know what he's made of. And Whyte is well down the pecking order in the UK.
OK Toppy. Seen it. So he's another bully waiting to be taken down. Remember Sonny Liston and George Foreman. Frightening the way they hammered some fighters. Frazier was like a rag doll against Foreman, Patterson was bounced off the canvass by Liston (both sickening fights) but both had no answer to Ali,
Not sure what would happen if Wilder fought Klitschko. If Wilder caught Klits it would be all over; but looks like the reverse would also be true
Not sure what would happen if Wilder fought Klitschko. If Wilder caught Klits it would be all over; but looks like the reverse would also be true
Klitschko would KO Wilder in 2nd gear, this being the Wlad of 3-4 years ago mind as his lights are due to go out anytime soon nearing 40 years of age. Wilder wings his punches where as Wlad is a straight puncher so Wilder is made for him. Wilder is terrible as well, imagine him getting in with a 20 year old Tyson, a Holyfield or Lewis, one rounder if ever i've seen one. Joshua is still a novice but I would take him to beat Wilder in 2 years time if he keeps improving.
Yesterday the vacant WBO Bantamweight title went on the line. Japan's Ryo Akaho went up against the former champion Pungluang Sor Singyu of Thailand who lost the belt in 2013. The latter came into the fight a short favourite the reclaim the title. Akaho began well and may have claimed the first round. He came after the Thai fighter in the second, and for a while did well. He then ran into two massive right hands that stopped him cold. As Pungluang Sor Singyu and the amassed locals went into raptures at the second round stoppage, Akaho lay sprawled on the canvas for several minutes. It was a rough old event with low blows, throw downs and behind the head punching, most of which was done by Pungluang Sor Singyu.
The British media/SKY will and have done serious overhyping of Joshua too. Sky are nauseating in building things up, it's the same way they overhype the English PL as being the best in the world when everyone knows it's not! Some muppets however believe it and no doubt some think Joshua's the next 'big thing', no questions asked. That's a somewhat naive attitude and I'd say lets wait and see before were saying he's going to KO world champions! Who knows how Joshua will cope with a top heavyweight in the same way you doubt Wilder? I agree with your point about Joshua's physique though, he's just a man mountain and he seems to have the right level headed approach to keep climbing the ranks very quickly. Wilder on the other hand looks a bit of a beanpole, (a fairly muscular one admittedly) but certainly doesn't come across as having the natural strength Joshua possesses. In interviews it's telling how narrow Wilder is, like you I'd agree someone proven, like Klitschko should be too much.
Regards Wilder am I right in saying he's scheduled to fight HUGHIE Fury next?!! Now I know plenty think Tyson's a bit of a joke but wait till you see the cousin...