If you think a march by the AOH through New York is comparable in any way to the walks in NI you are seriously deluded.
In the Free land of Scotland, Hibs walks are illegal. Orange Walks are protected by law, however, and there was always a common understanding that it was illegal to cross the front of them (not sure if this is urban myth or not). In New York, if the Catholics were celebrating the exclusion of non-Catholics from being head of state (at the time, the Act of Settlement outlawed Catholicism outright), then maybe those people would be quite right to oppose it and the oppression it represents (even violently) It is seriously time to wind this thread up - Medro has, at least, suggested that the people involved in rioting on both sides are doing their own communities harm. We only have Orange Walks in Scotland (Glasgow has more than Belfast) but no Hibs walks - every time some socialist coalition or other arranges a demonstration about anything in Ireland or anything about Palestine, the usual muppets turn up and hurl abuse at them (the same thing on the opposite side happened when parading the military in Glasgow). You're trying to align the OO with the AOH again which, outwith of screaming "they're as bad as us" is blatant "they're as bad as us" nonsense. To wrap up - the youths shouldn't have rioted and deserved to be dispersed by the police and dressing celebrating oppression as "culture" is pathetic and deserves as much scorn as possible
Well are you gonna tell us then? I see you done it again. You no doubt share the same views about the Ancient Order of Hibernians? They are exclusively catholic and march every August I think. Would it be understandable to attack them? They also organise some of the biggest St.Patricks day parades across the states these days. Would it be acceptable for non-catholic New Yorker's to hurl bricks, bottles and petrol bombs at them?
Why exactly? Rebel said it was not the marches themselves, which are often silent going through nationalist areas, but it is because the OO are only for protestants.
Maybe but other Nationalist organisations have like the main Nationalist party in NI, Sinn Fein and they are in Government. Also what about the past exclusion of the GAA that has now thankfully come to an end? Each side blames the other for everything when neither side are innocent and that is why I hate the country so much.
That's exactly what he is doing. I'll ask again. You no doubt share the same views about the Ancient Order of Hibernians? They are exclusively catholic and march every August I think. Would it be understandable to attack them? They also organise some of the biggest St.Patricks day parades across the states these days. Would it be acceptable for non-catholic New Yorker's to hurl bricks, bottles and petrol bombs at them?
Shock Horror! My dead grandparents expressed some outdated views, 20 odd years ago. I think most people will agree on their grandparents or elderly relatives being racist, doesn't mean the rest of the family share the same beliefs. But then again, that's you at your best. Assuming.
More assumptions based upon naught but blind ignorance. Don't be a daft and try and guess what my views are on the AOH or anyone for that matter, you know nothing whatsoever about me except that which your own prejudice has suggested.
Sinn Fein banned Protestants? Chic....please? rule 21 is something different entirely and entirely reasonable in the circumstances. nationalist sporting organisation doesn't let foreign oppressor join....?? big wow. shockeroonie
Calm down pet, I am asking Rebelboy. You no doubt share the same views about the Ancient Order of Hibernians? They are exclusively catholic and march every August I think. Would it be understandable to attack them? They also organise some of the biggest St.Patricks day parades across the states these days. Would it be acceptable for non-catholic New Yorker's to hurl bricks, bottles and petrol bombs at them? I'm grabbing a spot of lunch here so it'll give you a bit of time to comeback with a response.
I was referring to their IRA links which no one can deny and what about recently when a convicted murderer was given a cushy job by a Sinn Fein minister. It may have been justified at the time to have rule 21 just like it could have been seen as justified at the time for the OO to ban Catholics from joining. The only difference is that the GAA has seen fit to remove that rule and as yet the OO have not.
It is an entirely different dynamic formed and perpetuated in entirely different circumstances. their aim is not supremacy. the result of what they do is not provocation. I am not a fan but on an individual level I have found them to be very personable.
