Offside rule changed

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jenthesaint1990 said:
already confused by the "phases" of offside. its going to get so complicated eventually the whole rule will just be scrapped!
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Agree, guess it's designed in instances where a goalkeeper is unsighted or distracted by a striker close by. Trouble with this rule is that the linesman maybe able to see the offside, but can he distinguish whether the player is making enough of an impact from his angle on the touchline.
 
saintlyhero said:
Agree, guess it's designed in instances where a goalkeeper is unsighted or distracted by a striker close by. Trouble with this rule is that the linesman maybe able to see the offside, but can he distinguish whether the player is making enough of an impact from his angle on the touchline.
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That is where the referee and the assistants HAVE to communicate. They can talk to each other through their earpieces so they can work together in hopefully making the right call.
 
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tomw24 said:
That is where the referee and the assistants HAVE to communicate. They can talk to each other through their earpieces so they can work together in hopefully making the right call.
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Agree this is essential, however it will be lead to some on-pitch confusion. If the linesman sees an offside, then he should raise his flag then the ref would have to decide if the player flagged was having an impact. This could lead to those moments where goals are ruled out and then re-instated leading to confusion on and off the pitch.

Football falls behind NFL & Rugby in open communication with the players, coaches and crowd. If the officials were mic'd up they could explain decisions like this to everyone and alleviate some of the controversy.
 
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I think it's a good thing as a player moving towards the ball is distracting to the GK even if he doesn't make contact. Apparently the player has to have a hope of touching the ball....if he jumps but the ball is way over his head, offside will not be given. There will be a lot more offsides....as I said on the other thread, I suspect this is what was going on during the friendly where the linesmen got muscle fatigue from signalling offside so often.
 
saintlyhero said:
Agree this is essential, however it will be lead to some on-pitch confusion. If the linesman sees an offside, then he should raise his flag then the ref would have to decide if the player flagged was having an impact. This could lead to those moments where goals are ruled out and then re-instated leading to confusion on and off the pitch.

Football falls behind NFL & Rugby in open communication with the players, coaches and crowd. If the officials were mic'd up they could explain decisions like this to everyone and alleviate some of the controversy.
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It's ok SH, the next head of FIFA will take the game forward and use the latest technology to ensure the game is at the forefront of correctness...

Oh, Platini you say?
 
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I'm not sure this rule will help keepers.
It seems the emphasis is on the offside player, moving towards or trying to play the ball.
I couldn't see anything that said a player standing in an offside position, obstructing the keepers view, not trying to play the ball, or moving away from it, as it approaches goal, would see a goal disallowed.
 
It's not a change in the rule is it? It's just an attempt to clarify what may constitute interfering with play. If a player is in an offside position he has to ensure that he is not affecting play in any way. So no change there, just a tightening of interpretation. Makes sense.
 
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St Badger said:
I'm not sure this rule will help keepers.
It seems the emphasis is on the offside player, moving towards or trying to play the ball.
I couldn't see anything that said a player standing in an offside position, obstructing the keepers view, not trying to play the ball, or moving away from it, as it approaches goal, would see a goal disallowed.
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I agree it doesn't come into effect if a player just stands there, but I bet very few players would stand without making a move towards the ball or keeper....pure instinct.
 
saintlyhero said:
Agree this is essential, however it will be lead to some on-pitch confusion. If the linesman sees an offside, then he should raise his flag then the ref would have to decide if the player flagged was having an impact. This could lead to those moments where goals are ruled out and then re-instated leading to confusion on and off the pitch.

Football falls behind NFL & Rugby in open communication with the players, coaches and crowd. If the officials were mic'd up they could explain decisions like this to everyone and alleviate some of the controversy.
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And Remove most of the reason football is so popular IMO,talking points and ongoing discussions sometimes for years (1966) .
 
I don't think it clarifies anything. Are we talking about the defender being physically impacted upon, i.e. blocking a run or even being in the sight line of the goal keeper? In which case OK, it might help a bit.

But the ones I hate are where a player is clearly in an offside position thereby attraction a defender to him but then he doesn't receive the ball and an onside player does. The point being that the defender could have been marking the onside player. So clearly the 'offside' player has made an impact but they aren't given.

This is then compounded when said player, now, onside receives the ball and scores. It has become a stupid law that really needs a lot of thought and clarification not just tweaks.
 
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If you're offside, the only move you should make is to get back onside. Doing anything else could potentially result in you being penalised. Seems clear enough to me, though obviously it's the lino's call. But it is anyway
 
Velcro Roy said:
And Remove most of the reason football is so popular IMO,talking points and ongoing discussions sometimes for years (1966) .
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Rubbish. When the consequences of both failure and success are so vast, talking points be damned. I'd rather a decision was correct, than it wrong so I had something to rant about for the next 6 months. It being a talking point is scant consolation for a team losing a play-off final based on an offside goal, especially how important the Premiership play-off is for the future financial prospects of the club in question (and similar in the WPL, though worse because you can win the league and not get promoted)
 
I don't think anyone would rather have contentious decisions than a correct one (unless it is in our favour :)), but most accept that nothing will ever be 100% right or they differ in the amount of changes to the game they are willing to accept in order to get the decision right.
 
PompeyLapras said:
Rubbish. When the consequences of both failure and success are so vast, talking points be damned. I'd rather a decision was correct, than it wrong so I had something to rant about for the next 6 months. It being a talking point is scant consolation for a team losing a play-off final based on an offside goal, especially how important the Premiership play-off is for the future financial prospects of the club in question (and similar in the WPL, though worse because you can win the league and not get promoted)
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Blimey a Pompey fan concerned about money. Who would have thought.
 
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