Police wrong for using water cannons on rioters?

[BH1972RFC]

It is entirely understandable that a certain element will react in such a way.

Is it justified to provoke such a reaction in the first instance?

So by your reasoning, it would be entirely understandable for an element of the PSNI to react in an over-exhuberant manner. After all, we all know that most of the bottle and rock throwing is an attempt to provoke a reaction in the first place?

Or, how about, you behave like normal human beings and don't go breaking the law in the first place and therefore don't end up on the receiving end of a dangerous hosing down with water

 

[RebelBhoy]

What are these riot control measures employed by British police you alluded to, still not gave me an example?

"It is a weapon, it is dangerous"

You really are a helmet

well in Derry, the same police force took up a watching brief and trouble fizzled out. That appeared far more effective.

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110119-32525.html

safe as houses eh?

 

[Medro]

It is entirely understandable that a certain element will react in such a way.

Is it justified to provoke such a reaction in the first instance?

So what you are saying is . Yes it is justified to get on like a thuggish animal., hi jack peoples cars, burn them out and throw rocks, petrol bombs and fireworks.

 

[BH1972RFC]

"Awww naw, nae the water gun...we're awwww dooooooomed"

 

[Ciaran]

You think they won't be parading in 2 years time?
Get real.

I heard all this at the time of Drumcree. 'United we stand' 'If we lose this we lose Ulster' blah blah bluster.Do you think they are going to continue to shell out to police these marches when all they have to do is re-route? Have you any idea how much these things cost? I love your ignorance though, typical blinkered Loyalist. The OO will not be marching there in 2014, mark my words. They will be taking the wee slip road that links the Crumlin Road around the bottom of the Ballysillen road with Glencairn. It will cost a pittance to relay that wee road compared to the cost of policing the march through Ardoyne. Simple, march your sectarian march where they are wanted.

Oh look, how very impartial they are in Belfast....


http://www.psni.police.uk/officers_orange_order.pdf


What angle shall we put pressure on next I wonder?


Tick tock bigot.

 

[RebelBhoy]

How are they provoking exactly when they don't even go through? A commentator on Sky News said last night that some protesters walked 3 miles where they lived to protest at them walking through there area! FACT is Webel many of the protestors did so last night because they wanted trouble they went out looking for it.

what MP Pwesty?

You think that it is ok for a bigoted archaic institute to espouse their bigotry in an area adjacent to the people you discriminate against?

 

[RebelBhoy]

So what you are saying is . Yes it is justified to get on like a thuggish animal., hi jack peoples cars, burn them out and throw rocks, petrol bombs and fireworks.

no. I am saying it is understandable.

you are saying sectarianism and bigotry is acceptable?

 

[Medro]

well in Derry, the same police force took up a watching brief and trouble fizzled out. That appeared far more effective.

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110119-32525.html

safe as houses eh?

Yeah let the mob rule and hope it fizzles out.

Heres another bit of mob violence to justify.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14150449

 

[Calatron]

what MP Pwesty?

You think that it is ok for a bigoted archaic institute to espouse their bigotry in an area adjacent to the people you discriminate against?

I already answered that Wetard, and before I answer your question answer mine and Medro's. To re-iterate why was it provoking them exactly?

 

[RebelBhoy]

So by your reasoning, it would be entirely understandable for an element of the PSNI to react in an over-exhuberant manner. After all, we all know that most of the bottle and rock throwing is an attempt to provoke a reaction in the first place?

and yet show remarkable restraint in the face of Loyalist violence in east Belfast the previous week?

 

[Calatron]

no. I am saying it is understandable.

you are saying sectarianism and bigotry is acceptable?

It is understandable that some idiots walk 3 miles away from where they live to throw petrol bombs and rocks at Police because someone marched near their house, don't go near Blackpool mate they have Gay Pride and Rebellion marches every year.

 

[Medro]

You think they won't be parading in 2 years time?
Get real.

I heard all this at the time of Drumcree. 'United we stand' 'If we lose this we lose Ulster' blah blah bluster.Do you think they are going to continue to shell out to police these marches when all they have to do is re-route? Have you any idea how much these things cost? I love your ignorance though, typical blinkered Loyalist. The OO will not be marching there in 2014, mark my words. They will be taking the wee slip road that links the Crumlin Road around the bottom of the Ballysillen road with Glencairn. It will cost a pittance to relay that wee road compared to the cost of policing the march through Ardoyne. Simple, march your sectarian march where they are wanted.

Oh look, how very impartial they are in Belfast....


http://www.psni.police.uk/officers_orange_order.pdf


What angle shall we put pressure on next I wonder?


Tick tock bigot.

Difference being the route they take does NOT go through Ardoyne but past the edge of it. You have to head over to the shops to see them walk past.

 

[Medro]

and yet show remarkable restraint in the face of Loyalist violence in east Belfast the previous week?

I thought you would see that violence as understanable too?

 

[BH1972RFC]

and yet show remarkable restraint in the face of Loyalist violence in east Belfast the previous week?

"Aye, but, but..."

It's a PSNI conspiracy

 

[Calatron]

Webel gets wouted as a wobber and a wapist, welease wodewick and woger.

 

[RebelBhoy]

I already answered that Wetard, and before I answer your question answer mine and Medro's. To re-iterate why was it provoking them exactly?

so you don't know who "these people" are. "These people" say the exact opposite to what you suggested.

that is 2 times in a couple of days you gave shown an inability to understand simple sentences...but hey, you keep going son.

You think that it is ok for a bigoted archaic institute to espouse their bigotry in an area adjacent to the people you discriminate against?

 

[Ciaran]

Difference being the route they take does NOT go through Ardoyne but past the edge of it. You have to head over to the shops to see them walk past.

It goes through Ardoyne Medro, not 'past' it. That's a myth thrown about by the OO. There is 60 homes in the Mountainview, opposite the shops. You are talking to someone from the area not a randomer.

Tick tock.

 

[RebelBhoy]

"Aye, but, but..."

It's a PSNI conspiracy

just saying there are evidently other methods ti deal with this. That is what you asked for, that is what I provided.

 

[Calatron]

so you don't know who "these people" are. "These people" say the exact opposite to what you suggested.

that is 2 times in a couple of days you gave shown an inability to understand simple sentences...but hey, you keep going son.

You think that it is ok for a bigoted archaic institute to espouse their bigotry in an area adjacent to the people you discriminate against?

I will dad and it isn't bigotry they are simply celebrating the religion from which they decend, to throw rocks and try to stop it is bigotry though so no I don't see much wrong with what they are doing.

 

[Calatron]

It goes through Ardoyne Medro, not 'past' it. That's a myth thrown about by the OO. There is 60 homes in the Mountainview, opposite the shops. You are talking to someone from the area not a randomer.

Tick tock.

A myth that was also backed up by Sky and BBC News.