Off Topic Young persons car insurance

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Why do they ask your marital status, particularly, is being single a greater or lesser risk than being divorced?

Also, as it makes no difference to the purpose of the request, why do they ask for gender?
Even though they can't use gender for premium purposes they still obviously need to know your gender as motor insurance is a legal requirement.
 
Even though they can't use gender for premium purposes they still obviously need to know your gender as motor insurance is a legal requirement.

Ah right. So it's more to help make sure it's the right individual if they're stopped and reduce a bloke called Carol or a boy named Sue confusing things?
 
The actuaries gather use all claims information from every claim recorded, obviously trends appear in claims and yes single men tend to have more claims than married men, a single males lifestyle will tend to be different to that of a married mans, more socialising etc which in turn increases the risk. People tend to drive more carefully when they have children in the car as oppose to when they are by themselves, all things like these are used to rate your insurance.

All true, but the actual amount they effect your premium is typically pretty small, the main factors are age and no claims bonuses. I accidentally put married when I renewed my premium (god forbid at my age!), I rang up to correct it and my premium went up by £2 a year.
 
All true, but the actual amount they effect your premium is typically pretty small, the main factors are age and no claims bonuses. I accidentally put married when I renewed my premium (god forbid at my age!), I rang up to correct it and my premium went up by £2 a year.
Its not as simple as that, age is a massive ratings factor as is ncb but other things are as well that you wouldn't expect, such things as purchase date of vehicle. I see some massive increases just down to that,
 
Its not as simple as that, age is a massive ratings factor as is ncb but other things are as well that you wouldn't expect, such things as purchase date of vehicle. I see some massive increases just down to that,

I wasn't even aware that came into consideration, what's the implication, that if you buy a car at a certain time of year your more likely to be a dangerous driver?!
 
Its not as simple as that, age is a massive ratings factor as is ncb but other things are as well that you wouldn't expect, such things as purchase date of vehicle. I see some massive increases just down to that,

Could you explain a bit more about the date of purchase issue? Is there an optimum?
 
I wasn't even aware that came into consideration, what's the implication, that if you buy a car at a certain time of year your more likely to be a dangerous driver?!
No, purchase date of the vehicle relates to how much experience you have driving that particular vehicle. Obviously if you've been driving/owned it for a few years you are aware and used to driving it, thus reducing the risk, if you've just bought it the risk is higher as you aren't as used to the car.
 
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No, purchase date of the vehicle relates to how much experience you have driving that particular vehicle. Obviously if you've been driving/owned it for a few years you are aware and used to driving it, thus reducing the risk, if you've just bought it the risk is higher as you aren't as used to the car.
Thanks for clearing it up, that makes a lot more sense!
 
Interesting stuff. Cheers. <ok>

So presumably, there's some advantage to buying a car for them to learn in and insuring them for that and upgrading later if/when they pass?
 
The car itself obviously makes a difference, as does the registered address. Places with higher vehicle crime statistics are obviously higher risk.

For some reason, it made the difference between mine and a friends quotes on the same car approx £1000 apart when I first started driving. I assume that to be what changed it as it was the very same car (done on registration) we both took a quote on and we're both the same age. Perhaps there's some statistic where young males in certain places cause more accidents and are therefore more risk, he lived in a **** hole.
 
Wrong. These things will more than likely increase the premium as you will have to list them as modifications and there are increases for modifications, also the general insurers don't tend to like lots of modifications which would then force you to use a specialist insurer who's premiums will generally be higher.

You're probably right. I've a friend who does a lot of car modding, track days and whatever and he told me these things bring his insurance down as the car is essentially safer. He's more than likely on a proper modded car insurance though. I've never actually asked an insurer about them myself.
 
Premiums do not tend to drop after 25 nowadays, in fact its only once you hit 35 at least that you will start to see noticeable premium reductions due to age.

Mine dropped considerably this year now I'm 25. By almost 25% I think, can't remember exactly what I paid last year.
 
Mine dropped considerably this year now I'm 25. By almost 25% I think, can't remember exactly what I paid last year.
Motor insurances tend to be dropping at the moment anyway, although yours may have dropped specifically due to your age, in general though the 25yrs assumption is less relevant
 
Advice I was given for my lad was not to assume that a smaller engine means cheaper insurance. Some smaller cars are actually dearer because more of those models are involved in accidents.

As a result I got my lad a 1.4 Corsa which was considerably cheaper to insure than a 1.0 Corsa. Suzuki Swifts were also a cheaper model to insure but he wasn't having any of it.

He swapped that for a Clio after a year or so & was paying £500 for that & he now has a MK4 Golf & pays about £700 a year at 21.

Get them through the first year & accept you're going to get exploited after that it should drop considerably.
 
Interesting stuff. Cheers. <ok>

So presumably, there's some advantage to buying a car for them to learn in and insuring them for that and upgrading later if/when they pass?

Wouldn't it just have been easier to have conceived your lad 10 years earlier?