The amount of anger around. He’s had death threats to his 3 year old daughter. All this because he’s left a club who he owes zero loyalty to who have never won a title in his life time to join a better, bigger and more ambitious team who can offer him Champions League football and a nice pay rise. In leaving they pick up a £40m profit after 2 or 3 seasons of good service to the club. We eventually pick up just short of £10m for a player who never played a game for us. Thats only a positive story! Some on here still manage to get wound up and have personal digs It is a win win for all but he gets abuse and slagged off by people angry at him for how much money he is making
Would you move jobs if you could double your wages and go to a better company with more exciting career prospects? If the answer is yes then by your own logic you are a greedy twat
great, but what has all that to do with your assumption that people are digging him out purely because they are jealous of him? How do you know they are jealous? Sounds like you are related to him, you are defending him that much.
There's a culture of jealousy against the rich. Labour tried to win an election on the back of it If it's not jealousy about his wages I can't see why else non-liverpool fans especially have got any negative views about it at all
I think people are judging a lack of loyalty, drawing on the moral standard which we value highly in life and hope we can abide by, mixed in with an acknowledgement of how ridiculous the transfer market and player valuations and fees have become. I don't think it's pure jealousy, more that a lot of people don't feel genuine good feeling about seeing others do well in life. Wait....is that jealousy?
I would never tell someone who basically got the best out of my talent, looked after me and my family on the Friday i was staying at my work place and on Monday joined another company. Sadly that's exactly what he did. The bloke is a greedy little twat. people should not compare our every day jobs to that of a footballer either.
I think that we have to just accept that everyone is just in it for themselves. Loyalty doesn't exist in this game any more. ( I'm not too sure that it has ever done in the last thirty years or so. ) Football is just a business.
People who say they wouldn't change jobs for better pay, better conditions and better prospects are either fools or stuck in a s++t job. In the world today you only have a job until they find someone younger and cheaper. They don't care about you or your circumstances one iota.
I hate that line, 'got the best out of their talent'. What a load of bollox! They paid £400,000 and the 20% sell on ( so £10m) for a 15 year old because he had the talent. Liverpool didn't magically bring that talent out of him. There is absolutely no reason at all that he wouldn't have realised that talent at any other club in the Prem. I remember Dave Whelan kicking off when Moses left Wigan saying 'they made him'. Completely forgetting the reason they paid £2.5m for a young kid. Why aren't you getting wound up about Clyne being a greedy little twat, after Southampton helped him realise his talent (and Palace before that) or Llallana for leaving Southampton (and Bournemouth) before that. Sterling saying he was staying then suddenly leaving?! Seriously? You didn't know he was likely to leave for the same reason he left us for Liverpool in the first place? As for not comparing our jobs to their jobs. Well that's wrong. Everyone deals with their own circumstances. You can't change the rules. DR Congo has an average annual salary of $442. You are infinitely richer than them. So if you were to leave your job, a place that 'looked after your family and help you reach your potential' to double your pay and move on to a more exciting career with more chance of succeeding. Well you'd say the same reasons to them to justify your actions.
Because that greedy little twat was not a QPR player and $tirling was. I thought we were talking about $tirling? keep on topic. I am not saying people don't move jobs for better money prospects, what i am saying is that QPR looked after him and his family and Gallen spoke to them on the Friday and was given assurance he was happy at QPR and staying and by Monday was on his way to Liverpool. Ask Gallen why that was and he will say "Money'. He gets first team football at one of the greatest clubs in the world, he spoke to BR a while back saying he was happy at Liverpool then once again he is off, why....Money. He then makes up a lame excuse that he couldn't work with BR? As for not giving QPR any credit because you believe he would have made it anyway is far from the mark. Plenty of players have said over the years that they never would have made it or given up if it wasn't for certain people and being in the right place at the right time. History has shown that not all good footballers make it. I know there is no loyalty (or very little) in football but where does this all stop? Is £500K a month not enough for a player that had an average last few months at Liverpool? If it's about trophies, why join the team that didn't win the league and are cr@p in Europe? When supporters believe it's okay for players to do this and try to justify this, they should never complain about season ticket prices or what division they are in. People should not then criticise players like SWP. People like $tirling are what's wrong with modern football and we shouldn't support their actions. He is a greedy little twat and he won't be bothered getting splinters.
Oh right should have realised you weren't angry at the decision made of a 20 year old man. You are instead angry at the actions of a 15 year old boy. Do you not think at 15 years old we are talking more about raw talent? Do you not think from a neutral perspective it could be considered a fair decision that he leaves a club that doesn't have academy status, has awful pitches that flood during winter and hasn't turned out youth products of note for decades to join Liverpool? Do you not think it fair that a 15 year old boy lifted out of poverty and with his own dad murdered as a kid can put money before his brief coaching relationship with Steve Gallen? So if your issue is only because of his ties to us and without that you have no more anger to him then you do Clyne or Llalana then it seems you should recognise that maybe you should drop your grudge against a 15 year old boy who we can clearly see made a good decision in leaving us when he did. If he went the way of someone like Dean Parrett then maybe you could have some sort of a point but he left us and succeeded. Now he's left Liverpool, for another step up in club (yes maybe they've underperformed in champs league but at least they are consistently in it- liverpool once again aren't in it), so maybe you should wait and see if he succeeds before you judge him. But even then, why would you care after you drop your grudge against a 15 year old boy who with hindsight definitely made a good decision. For the time invested in him, we get 10m- Liverpool get 40m. Not too bad from my perspective. As for the money, your moaning ain't going to change anything. It is a business and a very good livelihood. If you feel that strongly cancel your season ticket, (that supports Hoilett's wages) and cancel your Sky or BT sports packages and join a campaign. Otherwise it's just empty noise
I hope you remember that when Tubby decides to take his finger out and display all the talent he has at his new Club, Kia. You're right. It is entirely down to the player
Are you his agent? Bloody hell PD take a chill pill. I'm glad that we got £9m for the little greedy twat. I think i said that in my first post. As for the poverty thing, you would have thought he would have been grateful and loyal to the club that gave him and his family a new start. So i guess the whole family are greedy? Sorry but if it was me i would show a bit of loyalty. Stevie G was loyal to Liverpool even when he could have earned more elsewhere and got Champs league. As for knocking our set up at QPR i think you will find that he was about to be introduced to the main squad at some point (that was from SG). Sadly he never got the chance because of £££££££. As for your comments about cancelling my season ticket, why should I? I support the team and club and when i think something or someone is wrong i will say. I say that $tirling is a greedy little twat and you think that what he has done is okay. We can leave it at that.
Sterling and his family didn’t owe the club any loyalty. Also it was a right old mess back then and considering what happened after they clearly did the right thing. It’s funny how there is this demand for loyalty because he was good. As he was wanted by so many clubs at the time but chose QPR I assume you don’t think this loyalty should be one way only. And if he turned out to be pretty ****e that we would keep offering him good contract’s so he can stay out of loyalty. If not I don’t get why this loyalty is one way and only applies when a player is really good. Gerarrd did put in a transfer request though and managed to get a nice big pay rise on the back of it so he isn’t that much of a saint. He certainly weren’t playing for free. Also there are plenty of stories printed which suggest the reason he ended up staying was because of threats made to him by ‘gangsters’ in Liverpool. Add to that Liverpool is his home town. All his and his missus family and friends live there and grew up there. Sterling doesn’t have the same ties to Liverpool. Gerarrd has a big hole in his career without the premier league title because he stayed at Liverpool. You cant argue with the fact that he is more likely to win trophies at City We could take the £9m and be happy and not worry about any negative spin slagging off the decisions of what were a 15 year old boy and his family who wanted the best for him (have no right to assume otherwise). And all this about a player who as you say had an average last few months at Liverpool. Let the market run itself
As i said he is a greedy little twat and i cannot understand why you say that "'a club who he owes zero loyalty to" then when i call him a greedy little twat, you moan at my comments? If you are not worried about what he does and how he does it why complain when someone else says what they think? As for the Gerrard and 'gangsters" you should get over to the conspiracy thread! As i said i think he is a greedy twat and at 15 he and his family were greedy twats. Now he has proven to be an even greedier twat and i am sure for a role model he certainly adapted well from his poverty and Fathers death, hasn't he? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037777/Sterling-warned-laughing-gas.html Oops... not only a greedy twat but a stupid one as well. PS i forgot one of your other comments....Think you will find that i supported players like Derry and Hill when they joined when many others on this board knocked their signings. I have also supported players that have not been good but try. They may not have the skills of $tirling but proved loyalty on and off the pitch for QPR, and that's what counts. I mean if people aren't loyal why support QPR and not Chelsea? Loyalty means a lot in life not only for the person but for others that work with them. I have found out that money is not everything and loyalty actually means a lot. Gerrard and 'Gangsters' classic
