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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Klopp's Mannschaft

    Klopp's Mannschaft Well-Known Member

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    So...an out of contract player under 24 years old could then still only move to a club that his previous club are happy with (largely based around fee)? Does that mean Ings can't play for anyone in the meantime?

    This will get messy and taken to the FA who'll probably go down the middle of the tabled offers
     
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  2. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Whoever Ings signs for will have to pay compensation to Burnely. This will either be agreed with Burnley or set by a tribunal. Burnley don't have much of a say in who they're dealing with; that will be done by Ings and his agent I presume.
     
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  3. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Well no, because it'll go to a tribunal eventually, but of LFC refuse to pay the fee set at tribunal then I guess his contract will be terminated and he'll become a free agent again for another club to pay the tribunal fee
     
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  4. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    They can't, thats the point of a Tribunal. It forces the club selling to accept a lower offer than they want and forces the buying club to pay more than they want.
    The point that Spuds have made a £12m offer means very little. He's already rejected their contract offer, meaning they're out of the running. Its the same as when Borini had a fee agreed but refused to leave (only he was still in contract).

    I wonder what would have happened if Ings had run out his contract, become a free agent, then signed for us.

    I reckon it will be settled at £7m in the end.
     
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  5. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Exactly the same. That's why he didn't join til July 1, to allow the contract to run down. The compensation is only due to his age - if he was over 24, there would be no compensation (hence why we're not paying compensation for Bogdan or Milner).

    EDIT: Indeed, he didn't sign before the end of the contract: personal terms were agreed, as was a deal to sign on July 1 subject to a medical: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/186426-reds-agree-deal-to-sign-danny-ings
     
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  6. abc_220

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    We'll have to cough up. When could tribunal take place? An early tribunal the better.
     
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  7. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    It's obvious that irony is not your strong point
     
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  8. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious that making jokes isn't yours.
     
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  9. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Who said it was a joke. I just laughed at the situation
     
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  10. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    So you meant it seriously?
     
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  11. Maybe, maybe not. It certainly won't be the suggested £12m. It won't be above the £8m, I reckon it'll be about £6.5m
     
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  12. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Nope, it was obvious sarcasm.......

    Irony


    Whatever you want to call it
     
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  13. Rorschach

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    unfunny?
     
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  14. The whole point of a tribunal is for the selling club to revive something but not hold the buying club the ransom. What Burnley want is out of their hands, they should have sold him whilst still under contract of they wanted situation.

    If Ings were joining a Sunderland, Everton or Palace, would the tribunal fee be anywhere near £8m?
     
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  15. Diego

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    Of course it would, the tribunal decision does not take into account who the buying club is, they only take into account development costs and legitimate transfer offers.
    Everybody kept telling you lot that the fee would probably end up somewhere between £6m and £8m but you all said no the transfer offer wouldn't be included <doh>
     
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  16. Germlands Nozzer

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    Agree with the first part (except possibyl the legitimate transfer offers part), the second not so sure on - the tribunal's decision making process seems clear as mud. As is the fact as to whether the Spurs bid can be taken seriously or not.
     
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  17. I've said it'll be around that figure all along. In fact I said on this thread about four comments ago too. Burnley won't get the £12m mentioned in the article.
     
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  18. Diego

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    Of course it can, Spurs placed a written bid and had it accepted by Burnley. If Ings had said 2yeah, I fancy Spurs" the deal would have gone through or Spurs would have had to withdraw the bid.
     
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  19. Your missing the point of a tribunal. It isn't about getting Burnley what they want, it's about compensation. If they wanted £12m they should have tried to sell him before the contract expired!
     
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  20. Diego

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    Nobody has ever suggested they would. That is a value placed on the player by a genuine interested party via written bid, therefore it will be taken into account when assessing a fair price for the player.
     
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