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[Klopp's Mannschaft]

It doesn't say that?
guessing it means if we can't agree a fee we could say no thanks, if it's anymore than 6m then we'll pull out

So...an out of contract player under 24 years old could then still only move to a club that his previous club are happy with (largely based around fee)? Does that mean Ings can't play for anyone in the meantime?

This will get messy and taken to the FA who'll probably go down the middle of the tabled offers

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

So...an out of contract player under 24 years old could then still only move to a club that his previous club are happy with (largely based around fee)? Does that mean Ings can't play for anyone in the meantime?

This will get messy and taken to the FA who'll probably go down the middle of the tabled offers

Whoever Ings signs for will have to pay compensation to Burnely. This will either be agreed with Burnley or set by a tribunal. Burnley don't have much of a say in who they're dealing with; that will be done by Ings and his agent I presume.

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

So...an out of contract player under 24 years old could then still only move to a club that his previous club are happy with (largely based around fee)? Does that mean Ings can't play for anyone in the meantime?

This will get messy and taken to the FA who'll probably go down the middle of the tabled offers

Well no, because it'll go to a tribunal eventually, but of LFC refuse to pay the fee set at tribunal then I guess his contract will be terminated and he'll become a free agent again for another club to pay the tribunal fee

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

Complete horse **** of a article. How can anyone force a out of contract player to join another club?

They can't, thats the point of a Tribunal. It forces the club selling to accept a lower offer than they want and forces the buying club to pay more than they want.
The point that Spuds have made a £12m offer means very little. He's already rejected their contract offer, meaning they're out of the running. Its the same as when Borini had a fee agreed but refused to leave (only he was still in contract).

I wonder what would have happened if Ings had run out his contract, become a free agent, then signed for us.

I reckon it will be settled at £7m in the end.

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

They can't, thats the point of a Tribunal. It forces the club selling to accept a lower offer than they want and forces the buying club to pay more than they want.
The point that Spuds have made a £12m offer means very little. He's already rejected their contract offer, meaning they're out of the running. Its the same as when Borini had a fee agreed but refused to leave (only he was still in contract).

I wonder what would have happened if Ings had run out his contract, become a free agent, then signed for us.

I reckon it will be settled at £7m in the end.

Exactly the same. That's why he didn't join til July 1, to allow the contract to run down. The compensation is only due to his age - if he was over 24, there would be no compensation (hence why we're not paying compensation for Bogdan or Milner).

EDIT: Indeed, he didn't sign before the end of the contract: personal terms were agreed, as was a deal to sign on July 1 subject to a medical: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/186426-reds-agree-deal-to-sign-danny-ings

 

[abc_220]

We'll have to cough up. When could tribunal take place? An early tribunal the better.

 

[Peej]

What? In order to get revenge on Brendan getting them to spend 11m plus wages on Borini two years earlier, they went out and spent 16m plus wages on Balotelli? How does that work mate?

It's obvious that irony is not your strong point

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

It's obvious that irony is not your strong point

It's obvious that making jokes isn't yours.

 

[Peej]

It's obvious that making jokes isn't yours.

Who said it was a joke. I just laughed at the situation

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

Who said it was a joke. I just laughed at the situation

So you meant it seriously?

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

I know, but they (Burnley) will get more dosh out of us.

Maybe, maybe not. It certainly won't be the suggested £12m. It won't be above the £8m, I reckon it'll be about £6.5m

 

[Peej]

Nope, it was obvious sarcasm.......

Irony


Whatever you want to call it

 

[Rorschach]

Nope, it was obvious sarcasm.......

Irony


Whatever you want to call it

unfunny?

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

It doesn't say that?
guessing it means if we can't agree a fee we could say no thanks, if it's anymore than 6m then we'll pull out

The whole point of a tribunal is for the selling club to revive something but not hold the buying club the ransom. What Burnley want is out of their hands, they should have sold him whilst still under contract of they wanted situation.

If Ings were joining a Sunderland, Everton or Palace, would the tribunal fee be anywhere near £8m?

 

[Diego]

The whole point of a tribunal is for the selling club to revive something but not hold the buying club the ransom. What Burnley want is out of their hands, they should have sold him whilst still under contract of they wanted situation.

If Ings were joining a Sunderland, Everton or Palace, would the tribunal fee be anywhere near £8m?

Of course it would, the tribunal decision does not take into account who the buying club is, they only take into account development costs and legitimate transfer offers.
Everybody kept telling you lot that the fee would probably end up somewhere between £6m and £8m but you all said no the transfer offer wouldn't be included

 

[Germlands Nozzer]

Of course it would, the tribunal decision does not take into account who the buying club is, they only take into account development costs and legitimate transfer offers.
Everybody kept telling you lot that the fee would probably end up somewhere between £6m and £8m but you all said no the transfer offer wouldn't be included

Agree with the first part (except possibyl the legitimate transfer offers part), the second not so sure on - the tribunal's decision making process seems clear as mud. As is the fact as to whether the Spurs bid can be taken seriously or not.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Of course it would, the tribunal decision does not take into account who the buying club is, they only take into account development costs and legitimate transfer offers.
Everybody kept telling you lot that the fee would probably end up somewhere between £6m and £8m but you all said no the transfer offer wouldn't be included

I've said it'll be around that figure all along. In fact I said on this thread about four comments ago too. Burnley won't get the £12m mentioned in the article.

 

[Diego]

Agree with the first part (except possibyl the legitimate transfer offers part), the second not so sure on - the tribunal's decision making process seems clear as mud. As is the fact as to whether the Spurs bid can be taken seriously or not.

Of course it can, Spurs placed a written bid and had it accepted by Burnley. If Ings had said 2yeah, I fancy Spurs" the deal would have gone through or Spurs would have had to withdraw the bid.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Of course it can, Spurs placed a written bid and had it accepted by Burnley. If Ings had said 2yeah, I fancy Spurs" the deal would have gone through or Spurs would have had to withdraw the bid.

Your missing the point of a tribunal. It isn't about getting Burnley what they want, it's about compensation. If they wanted £12m they should have tried to sell him before the contract expired!

 

[Diego]

I've said it'll be around that figure all along. In fact I said on this thread about four comments ago too. Burnley won't get the £12m mentioned in the article.

Nobody has ever suggested they would. That is a value placed on the player by a genuine interested party via written bid, therefore it will be taken into account when assessing a fair price for the player.