This is a prime example of taking the Media with a pinch of salt, they do not always tell the truth, shock horror. Despite the guy who originally tweeted it saying it was a joke, they continue to peddle this nonsense. What is worrying is people believe the Media like they represent some absolute truth.
It is worrying that people believe stuff like this, but even more worrying that organisations that are supposed to report news, and are respected names/brands (Telegraph, Guardian, Times ect) just spread BS with no idea if it's got any shred of credibility or truth to it. With football it's of little worry, so us poor fans get our hearts beating a bit quicker, and we get a bit more stressed and disappointed during the silly season. But when you see this sort of thing in the political press or general news helping form people's opinion on potential leaders, global issues, minorities and stuff and you can see why there's so much ill informed hate, anger and prejudice in the world, where people are unsettled and angry that something is wrong, but can't put their finger on what it is, and are surrounded by conflicting and fear mongering messages.
Spot on mate. An irresponsible Media can lead to more serious social problems. But then again, being a lazy person and taking all your knowledge from newspapers is a recipe of disaster. We are fortunate to live here where we are free to read anything we want, whether in printed form or on the internet. But the majority of people continue to educate themselves from tabloid newspapers and pointless celebrity twitter feeds. Ignorance remains everywhere.
Very true, I suppose nobody can help you if you'll just blindly believe whatever you read, regardless of source, but particularly in the case of tabloids. But I do think it is scary and irresponsible of the media to act like this, as it changes the framework of issues and the way we look at the world. Take two of the recent terrible atrocities that have taken place - the church shooting in the USA, where lots of black Catholics was killed, it is heavily emphasised that it's a lone, mad gunman acting on his own. The Tunisia shootings of tourists has been reported in the Sun this morning as 'Us against Them', with words like Islamic militants, ISIS, Muslims, terrorists, jihadists. It helps frame the story's where one isn't a white supremacist attack on a black church, inspired by race hatred. It's an isolated nutter. Whereas the other is framed as a whole religion's attack on us and our way of life. Rather than some lunatics with machine guns or any other way that the story could be framed. (not saying any of the above ways is the right way to frame a story, just point out the difference in reporting).
While I get the point your trying to make your example is rubbish! IS have claimed responsibility for the Tunisia attack, it isn't the media adding in a terrorist element but rather a terrorist organisation openly saying they did it and wanting attention and credit for it.
Nicely pointing out the hypocrisy and double standards of the Media, who are clearly driven by an agenda. Another clear example is Anders Breivik, a self proclaimed right-wing terrorist who masterminded the massacre of 77 people. The Media and establishment were desperately trying to paint him off as another crazed lone gunman, he even pleaded that he was sane and it was something he deeply believed in. He didn't fit the established world view of a "Terrorist" as he was white and had a deep hatred of Islam and those who supported it. I can rattle off other examples but you get the point and this is not the best place for it..
Ahh apologies, I must admit I haven't followed the story closely because it's depressing I just saw the front page of the Sun while waiting in a shop. Lazarus' example was much better!
Some good points being raised about hypocrisy in the media but if you want to discuss it further post on the off topic fred
Getting back to the Vidal rumours.I'm well aware that an individual played a hoax yesterday but the Vidal rumours have been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks all this guy did was say something had been said to radio station.The guy admitted it was a hoax quite early.yesterday afternoon,some of the stories now in the media appeared hours later.It's not beyond the realms of possibility that there is something happening about Vidal
I posted on here a few weeks back saying that its reportedly a done deal and would be announced after the Copa America.
That is true, and there seems a subtle difference between the stories immediately after the hoax to the ones now. Which could, maybe, be because of some new info, or actual shift in the transfer. The main reason I'm still sceptical is that a) there's no quotes from any of the major players, or indeed many quotes of the reported sources (even of the newspaper articles the British papers are basing this on) and b) I can't see how he'll fit into our system when we are overflowing with creative, central midfielders, and Ramsey and Wilshere are great box-to-box midfielders, while what we need is someone who will just sit in front of the defence and break up play. True we could sell Wilshere and get Vidal - a blatant improvement based on last season. But I just can't see it, none of the noises from Wilshere or Arsenal or Wenger make it appear he's likely to leave. Indeed there was a Q&A with Gazidis and Ian Wright from just after the final where Gazidis called Wilshere Mr Arsenal and said he was a fan through and through, like Wright is. It also seems unlikely that after such a great season, that Juve would want to totally dismantle their midfield by losing Pogba, Vidal and Pirlo . That's a lot of talent and experience to lose all in one go.
Vidal is a fighter and is always trying to win the ball back, I could see us using a Vidal-Ramsey combo as both put in a good number of tackles and cover a lot of ground, if they got the right balance between them it would be a quality midfield. It's good to have different options and if we have Vidal instead of flamini in the squad I can't see anyone complaining. The season is long and we always have injuries so four players fighting for two CM spots, with Arteta as back-up is good numbers I think. That's assuming we count Cazorla as a player for further up the pitch, though he did very well at CM. We have several players who can play in different midfield positions and even out wide, that flexibility along with injuries means players still get game time over the course of the season. So I think we could fit him in without the need to sell wilshere. For me he takes Flaminis spot in the squad, with Diaby going too and Arteta aging there is room for another midfielder I think, but if we sign Vidal it would mean not signing a typical DM. I'd be happy if it happened, though I'm not convinced it will.
Looking at Wenger's track record, it would suggest that this transfer is very unlikely. He has rarely shown a ruthless streak, besides, both Ramsey and Coqs have done very well and if we needed back up it should have been as a pure DM. Vidal is box to box, similar to Ramsey, a player that is getting better. Wilshere is also someone Wenger believes in and needs game time, so putting in Vidal would spoil the whole apple cart. Now a CF would be another matter.
Wengers track record is often to buy a player in a position not quite the same as what people think we need so I could see him going for Vidal lol Having Coq, Ramsey, Vidal and Wilshere fighting for the two midfield spots would give us incredible depth at CM. Vidal may not be a typical DM but he is a real fighter and we could use more of that bite in the team. We always have injuries and wenger is happy to shift players out of there normal positions so I can see them all getting the game time to be content. If Flamini goes, with Arteta aging there is space for another midfield player. We all want a DM to compete or back-up, depending on who you ask, the Coq. So clearly we all think there is room for one more in the middle, signing Vidal would just mean not going for the DM type we expect. As I say though I'm still not convinced it will happen.
I would be glad to get Vidal as I like his fighting spirit. I know what Sanchez has done for us, who is also a fighter. But we have players that we need to move on if we're considering this. If hypothetically we get Vidal, I can see him coming straight in at the expense of our regulars and I don't fancy seeing Ramsey on the wings. I agree, I'm not convinced by this rumour but I won't be crying about it if we got him.
I like Vidal's fighting spirit and he is a great player, and as everyone says, I definitely wouldn't be crying about us getting a top class player! But I think the issue with both Vidal and Ramsey playing next to each other is the lack of positional discipline, resulting in a lack of shape and being caught on the counter as they both like to charge forward and make late runs into the box. Coq anchors everything, and I feel it's that sort of player we need.
