Raging Royalists

[Spook]

This thread has become argumentative and educational. A first for GC

However, I suspect Ponder and Bret are the same person. The chances of two people knowing all that useless ****e are pretty low

'Fraid not.

I wrote a dissertation on the political impacts Scandinavia had on England during the Viking Age that was about 5000 words. The essay included a comparison of Anglo-Saxon kingship, Norse kingship in Danish-occupied England and Norman feudalism.

 

[Ponders Revisited]

Ponder, you going to let Bret get away with that?

I don't disagree with the crux of Bret's statement, yet many of the 300-odd Germanic tribes had no ruling Kingship; they would have been guided by a council or elder.

Many of these tribes were eventually enveloped by powerful marauding forces, such as the Romans and Merovingians, and ruled by a single overlord, emperor, or king.

Just saying.

 

[Gambol]

I don't disagree with the crux of Bret's statement, yet many of the 300-odd Germanic tribes had no ruling Kingship; they would have been guided by a council or elder.

Many of these tribes were eventually enveloped by powerful marauding forces, such as the Romans and Merovingians, and ruled by a single overlord, emperor, or king.

Just saying.

That's what I was going to say

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

The individual doesn't own it personally but the Crown does and in her capacity as Monarch she has access to the Crown Estates. The Civil List was abolished in 2012 though and replaced with the Sovereign Support Grant.

I think you will find that the divvy belongs to the state not the crown.

 

[DevAdvocate]

Slightly off-topic but

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-332722197


Aye all the illegal immigrants here are arrested under a EAW and charged with human rights abuses.

Uppity ****s

 

[Mick O'Toon]

'Fraid not.

I wrote a dissertation on the political impacts Scandinavia had on England during the Viking Age that was about 5000 words. The essay included a comparison of Anglo-Saxon kingship, Norse kingship in Danish-occupied England and Norman feudalism.

Would you think that Vikings (history channel) was an accurate portrayal?

 

[Ponders Revisited]

Would you think that Vikings (history channel) was an accurate portrayal?

No way. Where were the horns on their helmets?

 

[Gambol]

Would you think that Vikings (history channel) was an accurate portrayal?

Don't be daft. They didn't have TV cameras back then ya eejit.

 

[DevAdvocate]

That's fine, even if I don't agree with it. I think hierarchy is natural in humans just like other animals but obviously we've taken it to the extreme. All societies and civilisations have or have had hierarchy, hereditary or not. I think the injustice of the Monarchy in Britain is amplified because of the rising poverty. The Danes, Norwegians and Swedes are overwhelmingly and overtly monarchist but there's more social mobility in Scandinavia and the Scandinavian royals don't represent the rigid class system like ours do.

I have no problem with hierarchies, I just don't happen to think they should be led by unelected people.

We are no better than North Korea as it stands, yet we laugh at their leader being given complete power by his father.

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

'Fraid not.

I wrote a dissertation on the political impacts Scandinavia had on England during the Viking Age that was about 5000 words. The essay included a comparison of Anglo-Saxon kingship, Norse kingship in Danish-occupied England and Norman feudalism.

5000 words? Would 'the vikings utterly bumraped the English' not have done then?

 

[Gambol]

I'm suddenly in the mood for some serf riding. Where's minxy?

 

[DevAdvocate]

5000 words? Would 'the vikings utterly bumraped the English' not have done then?

To be fair they arseraped the whole of the British Isles and beyond.

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

I have no problem with hierarchies, I just don't happen to think they should be led by unelected people.

We are no better than North Korea as it stands, yet we laugh at their leader being given complete power by his father.

And his haircut. Thats a scream so ItI is.

 

[Ponders Revisited]

5000 words? Would 'the vikings utterly bumraped the English' not have done then?

They never got the better of Alfred, our second greatest King. Just ask Ubba, Ivar, Guthrum et al.

All this talk of the mighty Vikings is bollocks.

And is that Matthew Kelly in your picture?

 

[Gambol]

5000 words? Would 'the vikings utterly bumraped the English' not have done then?

The Vikings done us too, to be fair.

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

To be fair they arseraped the whole of the British Isles and beyond.

Nigel especially took a doing though.

 

[Spook]

I don't disagree with the crux of Bret's statement, yet many of the 300-odd Germanic tribes had no ruling Kingship; they would have been guided by a council or elder.

Many of these tribes were eventually enveloped by powerful marauding forces, such as the Romans and Merovingians, and ruled by a single overlord, emperor, or king.

Just saying.

Some tribes had kings and some had chieftains. Some tribes were, like you say, ruled by an oligarchic council of elders. Historically, as Germanic tribes conquer other tribes, absorb them and grow in size, they establish some form of kingship. For example, the Old Saxons (ones who didn't migrate to Britain) had no king or leader but were ruled by aristocrats equal in power. In the event of war, the Saxon aristocracy elected a military commander like Widukind during the Saxon Wars.

 

[Gambol]

Nigel especially took a doing though.

The Vikings and the English done us over. It was only they Roman pussies that couldny. Veni, vidi, vici indeed ya tally ****ers.

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

The Vikings done us too, to be fair.

Nup, didne happen. The Vikings seen that we were as mad as they ****s and we all ganged up against Nigel.

That is a histyrical fact that

 

[ERINBLACK]

Noggin the Nog was good