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Raging Royalists

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  1. Spook

    Spook Well-Known Member

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    'Fraid not. <laugh>

    I wrote a dissertation on the political impacts Scandinavia had on England during the Viking Age that was about 5000 words. The essay included a comparison of Anglo-Saxon kingship, Norse kingship in Danish-occupied England and Norman feudalism.
     
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    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree with the crux of Bret's statement, yet many of the 300-odd Germanic tribes had no ruling Kingship; they would have been guided by a council or elder.

    Many of these tribes were eventually enveloped by powerful marauding forces, such as the Romans and Merovingians, and ruled by a single overlord, emperor, or king.

    Just saying.
     
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  3. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    That's what I was going to say <grr>
     
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  4. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    I think you will find that the divvy belongs to the state not the crown.
     
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    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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  6. Mick O'Toon

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    Would you think that Vikings (history channel) was an accurate portrayal?
     
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    No way. Where were the horns on their helmets? ;)
     
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  8. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Don't be daft. They didn't have TV cameras back then ya eejit.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    I have no problem with hierarchies, I just don't happen to think they should be led by unelected people.

    We are no better than North Korea as it stands, yet we laugh at their leader being given complete power by his father.
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    5000 words? Would 'the vikings utterly bumraped the English' not have done then?
     
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  11. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    I'm suddenly in the mood for some serf riding. Where's minxy?
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    To be fair they arseraped the whole of the British Isles and beyond.
     
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  13. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    And his haircut. Thats a scream so ItI is.
     
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    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    They never got the better of Alfred, our second greatest King. Just ask Ubba, Ivar, Guthrum et al.

    All this talk of the mighty Vikings is bollocks.

    And is that Matthew Kelly in your picture?
     
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  15. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    The Vikings done us too, to be fair.
     
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  16. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    Nigel especially took a doing though.
     
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  17. Spook

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    Some tribes had kings and some had chieftains. Some tribes were, like you say, ruled by an oligarchic council of elders. Historically, as Germanic tribes conquer other tribes, absorb them and grow in size, they establish some form of kingship. For example, the Old Saxons (ones who didn't migrate to Britain) had no king or leader but were ruled by aristocrats equal in power. In the event of war, the Saxon aristocracy elected a military commander like Widukind during the Saxon Wars.
     
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  18. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    The Vikings and the English done us over. It was only they Roman pussies that couldny. Veni, vidi, vici indeed ya tally ****ers.
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Nup, didne happen. The Vikings seen that we were as mad as they ****s and we all ganged up against Nigel.

    That is a histyrical fact that
     
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    Noggin the Nog was good <ok>
     
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