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International Thread Part Trois

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fran-MLs little camera, Jun 5, 2015.

  1. st_brendy

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    Jack Wilshere coming on in central midfield. Oh no, wait.
     
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    Benassi has looked good in this game, but England have defended woefully.
     
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  4. AL.

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    What a shame for Italy though - well worth going through I thought.
     
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  5. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Yes, I'm a wee bit pee'd off that neither of my teams got through.
     
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  6. FdsaJoe

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    Of these players how many look to have a genuine chance of making it into the seniors? For me it's Kane, Ward-Prowse, Loftus-Cheek, Stones and Chambers. Players like Gibson, Carroll and Chalobah (who I thought was the worst of the lot) keeping these players out is hurting us in the short and long term.
     
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  7. Plastique Bertrand

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    In the commentary they expressed dismay over the discrepancy between the total amount of top-flight appearances (this season) of the players in each team. There was something like a 100 appearances in favour of the Italians. JWP and Chambers would have added 50 between them. Obviously Southgate preferred fringe players from struggling championship teams; Chalobah with 11 appearances for Reading plus 4 for Burnley and Jake Forster-Caskey with 14 for Brighton, over JWP.
     
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  8. Piebacca

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33276276

    What a brilliant attitude. You don't send a team to a tournament "hoping to ago a bit further than the group stages". You send them to ****ing win it. "Doing our best", the mating call of the loser, is why we haven't won anything. English players are indoctrinated to accept mediocrity.

    The most pathetic thing is that we have plenty of players eligible who have lots of top flight experience, but for some bizarre reason, they weren't picked.
     
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  9. Tintin

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    Southgate's squad selection, team selection, formations and tactics were all beyond a joke. It seems like he just picks his favourites to me
     
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  10. fran-MLs little camera

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    In that case, why drop JWP? I thought he was the golden boy. Why do England do so well before tournaments? I suppose we are in the top group of teams, but just not good enough.
     
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    How did Tom Carroll start every game? He was worse than JWP, yet was irreplaceable?!
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

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    Chalobah was completely useless as well, but seemed to play every minute.
     
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  13. Tintin

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    Carroll didn't play against Italy. He was good in the two games he played. The problem with Ward-Prowse is Southgate played him in the double pivot of a 4-2-3-1 when he should have been playing central behind the striker, with Carroll in the double pivot. Liam Moore also got dropped after a great game against Sweden and then England let in three without him. And Garbutt seems awful at left back, Targett should have been playing instead.

    He can't be Southgate's golden boy if he was dropped completely after the opener. England just don't seem capable of picking their best players and playing their strongest system. They can get away with it in qualifying. But they get found out against the better teams.
     
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  14. Tintin

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    Southgate have played Loftus-Cheek instead. It seems he wanted a player above 6ft in there. Loftus-Cheek is much better on the ball and better in the air.
     
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    When will people realise that we have fallen along way back in the football world?
     
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  16. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Hence how ridiculous there is an 'English premium'. We're crap, it should be the other way....
     
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    Don't forget...we didn't play the best u21 team. That would have been the real test...the FA should have insisted on picking who they liked for this tournament. Hope they support the manager better next time.
     
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  18. fatletiss

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    Don't kid yourself Fran. We aren't as good as we think we are.
     
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    Most of the other teams didn't pick their best available team aswell, if they had we would still have been battered
     
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