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Hoddle Is A God said:
He's taking the piss out of you, PISKIE. What he's actually saying is, that even with Cech in goal, you still won't have the bottle to challenge.
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Nice try HIAG, but if we did have the extra 15 points that the racist chav claims Cech would give us then we would have been champions last season.
 
Please don't tell me you're still waving your Chelsea blue pom poms for the Chavs like you have been doing on here recently.

I know your Spurs power shift nonsense came back to haunt you, but it's pretty low to ditch your own team and start lauding the Chavs.
 
I don't want to jump the gun before it's on Arsenal.com, but if we do sign Cech, as well as it being a massive signing from a major rival for us, it will piss Maureen off no end <laugh>
 
PISKIE said:
I don't want to jump the gun before it's on Arsenal.com, but if we do sign Cech, as well as it being a massive signing from a major rival for us, it will piss Maureen off no end <laugh>
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If it was going to piss off Mourinho, then it wouldn't happen. He doesn't appear to see it as a threat.

I can't see how Cech's not viewed as a big step up from Arsenal's current keepers, though.
That suggests one of three scenarios:
  • Mourinho thinks he's over the hill or somehow broken. Can't see it, myself.
  • Mourinho values Cech's loyalty enough to allow him a move to a genuine rival. Possible.
  • Mourinho doesn't think that Arsenal will be a threat next season.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
If it was going to piss off Mourinho, then it wouldn't happen. He doesn't appear to see it as a threat.

I can't see how Cech's not viewed as a big step up from Arsenal's current keepers, though.
That suggests one of three scenarios:
  • Mourinho thinks he's over the hill or somehow broken. Can't see it, myself.
  • Mourinho values Cech's loyalty enough to allow him a move to a genuine rival. Possible.
  • Mourinho doesn't think that Arsenal will be a threat next season.
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Or none of the above. It's been reported that Abramovich and Maureen both agreed that Cech could leave and go to the club of his choice, which Maureen hoped would be PSG, but Cech wanted to stay in London.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if it were down to Maureen alone he wouldn't let Cech sign for Arsenal, but how can he now go back on his word ?
 
PISKIE said:
Or none of the above. It's been reported that Abramovich and Maureen both agreed that Cech could leave and go to the club of his choice, which Maureen hoped would be PSG, but Cech wanted to stay in London.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if it were down to Maureen alone he wouldn't let Cech sign for Arsenal, but how can he now go back on his word ?
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He wouldn't have made that agreement with somebody that he thought could threaten Chelsea's title chances.
Either it doesn't exist or he thinks that Cech's past his best.
He'd be well aware of his desire to stay in London. It's not exactly a secret, is it?
 
Well if Maureen thinks Cech is past it, then it's Maureen who's past it.

His captain has just come out and said that Cech would give Arsenal and extra 12-15pts per season, so Maureen's players obviously rate him.

It may have more to do with Abramovich who made the guarantee to Cech and Maureen's hands are tied.
 
PISKIE said:
Well if Maureen thinks Cech is past it, then it's Maureen who's past it.

His captain has just come out and said that Cech would give Arsenal and extra 12-15pts per season, so Maureen's players obviously rate him.

It may have more to do with Abramovich who made the guarantee to Cech and Maureen's hands are tied.
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Terry's hardly going to come out and say that Cech's ****, is he? Not the best way to judge a signing.
Abramovich won't have had anything to do with it, either. That's not how he operates.

I don't think that Cech's past it and I've seen no evidence to suggest that he is, but Mourinho sees him all the time.
He might just be sentimental enough to allow him the move and still rate him highly, but it would be out of character.

That only leaves him not viewing Arsenal as a serious threat.
Given his record against Wenger, perhaps that's the most realistic option?
 
You'd like that to be the case. But Maureen is reported to be reluctant to sell to Arsenal (presumably because he knows it will strengthen us) but has already given Cech assurances that he could sign for the club of his choice.

What could be the icing on the cake is that Chelsea are reportedly considering replacing Cech with Rob Green <laugh>
 
PISKIE said:
You'd like that to be the case. But Maureen is reported to be reluctant to sell to Arsenal (presumably because he knows it will strengthen us) but has already given Cech assurances that he could sign for the club of his choice.

What could be the icing on the cake is that Chelsea are reportedly considering replacing Cech with Rob Green <laugh>
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Why would I like it to be the case? What relevance would it have to anything factual?
Mourinho's opinion has no effect on anything substantial.
 
PISKIE's doing his best, but he just keeps getting "owned" time after time!

It's comedy gold!
<laugh>
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Why would I like it to be the case? What relevance would it have to anything factual?
Mourinho's opinion has no effect on anything substantial.
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Well, the one thing you've mooted as being the most likely, that Maureen wouldn't see Arsenal as a threat with Cech is probably the one that's farthest from fact. But you're right in that Maureen's opinion is unlikely to have any effect on the outcome. It's been reported that Cech has already agreed personal terms and that the clubs are close to agreeing a fee.

The fact that the Chavs are going into bitter overload on twitter tells you everything you need to know about how they feel about losing Cech to us, presuming it actually all goes through.
 
I'm not worried about Cech going to Arsenal. Our boys put enough passed him when he was between the sticks for the Chavs, it won't be any different when he's between the sticks for the Gooners.
 
PISKIE said:
Well, the one thing you've mooted as being the most likely, that Maureen wouldn't see Arsenal as a threat with Cech is probably the one that's farthest from fact. But you're right in that Maureen's opinion is unlikely to have any effect on the outcome. It's been reported that Cech has already agreed personal terms and that the clubs are close to agreeing a fee.

The fact that the Chavs are going into bitter overload on twitter tells you everything you need to know about how they feel about losing Cech to us, presuming it actually all goes through.
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Yes, Mourinho's terrified of Cech going to Arsenal and you winning the league, so Chelsea are allowing the transfer to go through because...?
That paragon of virtue Abramovich is clearly overruling his manager, due to his principles and strong sense of morality.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
I'm not worried about Cech going to Arsenal. Our boys put enough passed him when he was between the sticks for the Chavs, it won't be any different when he's between the sticks for the Gooners.
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Shame for the Spuds then that both Chelsea and Arsenal have put more goals past your GK <laugh>
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Yes, Mourinho's terrified of Cech going to Arsenal and you winning the league, so Chelsea are allowing the transfer to go through because...?
That paragon of virtue Abramovich is clearly overruling his manager, due to his principles and strong sense of morality.
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If reports are to be believed, both Maureen and Abramovich made an assurance to Cech that he could leave and join the club of his choice. Maureen had hoped that that club would be abroad as he didn't want to sell to a rival and was offering him to PSG and Monaco, but Cech decided that he wanted to stay in London and still play Champions League football so chose Arsenal, which reportedly Maureen was reluctant about because he knows we are a rival to Chelsea.

If he thinks that Arsenal aren't a threat to Chelsea and we won't be strengthened by signing Cech, then he's got a massive blind spot. I think the truth however is, as reported, he would rather sell Cech abroad.
 
Updated...

Arsenal: ??

Aston Villa: Micah Richards (Manchester City)

Bournemouth: Artur Boruc (Southampton), Adam Federici (Reading), Christian Atsu (Chelsea - Loan), Joshua King (Blackburn), Sylvain Distin (Everton)

Chelsea: Radamel Falcao (Monaco - Loan TBC)

Crystal Palace: ??

Everton: Tom Cleverley (Man U)

Leicester: Christian Fuchs (Schalke)

Liverpool: James Milner (Man City), Danny Ings (Burnley), Divick Origi (Lille), Adam Bogdan (Bolton), Joe Gomez (Charlton)

Man City: ??

Man United: Memphis Depay (PSV)

Newcastle: ??

Norwich: Graham Dorrans (West Brom), Youssouf Mulumbu (West Brom)

Sunderland: ??

Southampton: Juanmi (Malaga), Cedric Soares (Sporting Libson), Martin Stekenlenburg (Fulham - Loan)

Stoke City: Jakub Haugaard (FC Midtjylland), Philipp Wollscheid (Bayer Leverkusen - Loan), Joselu (Hannover)

Swansea City: Franck Tabanou (St. Etienne), Andre Ayew (Marseille), Kristoffer Nordfeldt (Heerenveen)

Tottenham: Kevin Wimmer (Cologne), Kieran Trippier (Burnley)

Watford: Sebastian Prodl (Werder Bremen), Giedruis Arlauskis (Steau Bucharest)

West Brom: James McClean (Wigan)

West Ham: Pedro Obiang (Sampdoria)
 
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Arsenal: ??

Aston Villa: Micah Richards (Manchester City)

Bournemouth: Artur Boruc (Southampton), Adam Federici (Reading), Christian Atsu (Chelsea - Loan), Joshua King (Blackburn), Sylvain Distin (Everton)

Chelsea: Radamel Falcao (Monaco - Loan TBC)

Crystal Palace: ??

Everton: Tom Cleverley (Man U)

Leicester: Christian Fuchs (Schalke)

Liverpool: James Milner (Man City), Danny Ings (Burnley), Divick Origi (Lille), Adam Bogdan (Bolton), Joe Gomez (Charlton), Roberto Firmino (Hoffenheim)

Man City: ??

Man United: Memphis Depay (PSV)

Newcastle: ??

Norwich: Graham Dorrans (West Brom), Youssouf Mulumbu (West Brom)

Sunderland: ??

Southampton: Juanmi (Malaga), Cedric Soares (Sporting Libson), Martin Stekenlenburg (Fulham - Loan)

Stoke City: Jakub Haugaard (FC Midtjylland), Philipp Wollscheid (Bayer Leverkusen - Loan), Joselu (Hannover)

Swansea City: Franck Tabanou (St. Etienne), Andre Ayew (Marseille), Kristoffer Nordfeldt (Heerenveen)

Tottenham: Kevin Wimmer (Cologne), Kieran Trippier (Burnley)

Watford: Sebastian Prodl (Werder Bremen), Giedruis Arlauskis (Steau Bucharest)

West Brom: James McClean (Wigan)

West Ham: Pedro Obiang (Sampdoria)
 
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