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[Super G Ted'inho]

Am I missing something? What do we learn if he is protected? He could be protected and still be mafia couldn't he? So that would be 2/4 chance that we gain nothing.

Agreed. It has to be Valley that investigates MITO. however, there is still a risk that the Mafia will kill MITO if h is being honest

 

[Swarbs]

Can't say I am that fussed about that, the 66% investigation is unreliable anyway. None of us will ever entirely trust it so will it be of any more use than someones opinion?

Well it does at least give us something to go on. A 66% chance of being right at least gives us a basis upon which to apply some pressure.

Also, statistically, if Tobes is cartel then we have 16 remaining players, 12 innocent, three mafia and one SK. So even if MITO has only a 66% success rate, we have 75% good guys, so he is still likely to help us find the mafia and SK before we run out of players.

I agree it's not great, but it's better than **** all!

 

[Brian Storm]

Good point, I had not thought about them being able to gain more

They have to earn more fella. What good is a Mafia with two bullets.

So we need to think about how they would accumulate more kills. What tasks they could carry out. hmm, I wonder.

 

[Swarbs]

Am I missing something? What do we learn if he is protected? He could be protected and still be mafia couldn't he? So that would be 2/4 chance that we gain nothing.

That's my thoughts - 1/4 chance we kill MITO who might be an important townie, 2/4 chance we get nothing at all, 1/4 chance we find out who MITO is.

Surely the better idea is to have Valley investigate MITO and have a 100% chance of finding out who he is?

Nutjob should be going after the quiet players who are now likely to be the Mafia all trying to hide. With no cartel, even a weak Mafia has a good chance of winning.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Well it does at least give us something to go on. A 66% chance of being right at least gives us a basis upon which to apply some pressure.

Also, statistically, if Tobes is cartel then we have 16 remaining players, 12 innocent, three mafia and one SK. So even if MITO has only a 66% success rate, we have 75% good guys, so he is still likely to help us find the mafia and SK before we run out of players.

I agree it's not great, but it's better than **** all!

Yep, I did say higher up that it is better than a regular townie. just wouldn't be the end of the world to lose the role either IMO

PS...within the twelve innocents, their is a secret role of some description. I don't know if the player already knows about this or if the rest of us will be told its been activated if it wasn't from the start.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

They have to earn more fella. What good is a Mafia with two bullets.

So we need to think about how they would accumulate more kills. What tasks they could carry out. hmm, I wonder.

Well, you have to think about the total game setup. The Cartel was effectively a Zombie / Vampire team in that they recruit and grow. Theoretically, they should have two members now and with the number of players, it was unlikely that Pablo would be caught so early. The fact the Pablo role landed on a targeted player was very unfortunate.

But yes, as it stands the MAfia would look quite weak with just two kills

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

After thought...

It doesn't say anything about bullets for the Mafia, it says hits.

They have two hits. Valley reported seeing MITO with a knife. Does this count as a hit or is it their secret power? If it is the secret power then they still have two hits left with the possibility of gaining more.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

That's my thoughts - 1/4 chance we kill MITO who might be an important townie, 2/4 chance we get nothing at all, 1/4 chance we find out who MITO is.

Surely the better idea is to have Valley investigate MITO and have a 100% chance of finding out who he is?

Nutjob should be going after the quiet players who are now likely to be the Mafia all trying to hide. With no cartel, even a weak Mafia has a good chance of winning.

He only gets a report of Town or Non-Town so if we go with that option, lets hope the SK isn't activated eh? (assuming Tobes is indeed Pablo)

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Anyone got any paracetemol?

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Anyone got any paracetemol?

I've got a Peroni [HASHTAG]#italian[/HASHTAG]

 

[Brian Storm]

After thought...

It doesn't say anything about bullets for the Mafia, it says hits.

They have two hits. Valley reported seeing MITO with a knife. Does this count as a hit or is it their secret power? If it is the secret power then they still have two hits left with the possibility of gaining more.

Just a turn of phrase fella, I meant kills. A hit is a kill regardless of method, Hit is another word for attack.

 

[Swarbs]

He only gets a report of Town or Non-Town so if we go with that option, lets hope the SK isn't activated eh? (assuming Tobes is indeed Pablo)

Surely SK is non town, so that would show up?

Besides which, daybreak 1 said: "IBWT was found stabbed to death in what appears to be a mafia hit" and we know MITO killed him.

So either MITO is Mafia or MITO is PI pressured by Mafia. Can't see any scenario in which MITO is SK - if he was then he wouldn't claim to be PI as that would just risk him being recruited by Cartel or killed by Mafia.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Just a turn of phrase fella, I meant kills.

Was about to say they must still have two kills left since MITO used a knife but checked the rules again first

Genuine mistake or slip of the tongue from an insider

 

[Swarbs]

After thought...

It doesn't say anything about bullets for the Mafia, it says hits.

They have two hits. Valley reported seeing MITO with a knife. Does this count as a hit or is it their secret power? If it is the secret power then they still have two hits left with the possibility of gaining more.

See previous post - daybreak 1 reported Biscan's death as a "mafia hit"

 

[Rum & Black for 2]

[QUOTE="Less Hope Than Neville, post: 8025761, member: 1001641"]There is more to catch up on everytime I take a break

Some interesting developments. For what it's worth I never believe a condemned man - only a dead man's orbituary. For that reason I am taking Tobes' confesion claims with a huge pinch of salt. He could be mafia trying to **** with our heads. Or he could be telling the truth and be Pablo. As he is not ACS or Tash, I seriously doubt he is a townie throwing a hissy fit and misdirecting teammates (yes both have done that in previous games). Whether Pablo or Mafia though he needs to go.

Annoyingly, the more I read back, the more I can see that MITO might be telling the truth. I still have big doubts, but I can see a strand of consistency in what he is claiming. It is more than possible that his story about the mafia set up and framing is true. This is annoying as it isn't a big help. His info is tainted even if he is telling the truth. Killing Tennis doesn't confirm anything about MITO either way.

I don't think we can risk the schizo aiming for MITO. If the schizo gets no action we know nothing new. In the meantime if MITO is mafia he may have his killing ability re-activated if there was a limit on how frequently he could kill. If the schizo kills him then we have lost the PI (having already lost the detective).[/QUOTE]

So that's what you call work these days.



So, nothing new in fact !!

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Surely SK is non town, so that would show up?

Besides which, daybreak 1 said: "IBWT was found stabbed to death in what appears to be a mafia hit" and we know MITO killed him.

So either MITO is Mafia or MITO is PI pressured by Mafia. Can't see any scenario in which MITO is SK - if he was then he wouldn't claim to be PI as that would just risk him being recruited by Cartel or killed by Mafia.

What I meant was, if Valley gets a non-town report and the assumption would then be that Tennis is innocent. But if the SK was activated and it happened to be MITO, the report would still say non-town. I was only joking though as I can't see AFC selected anyone but a regular townie.

We don't know who the SK is yet but I'm pretty certain it will be one of the nine players that currently think they are a innocent boring townie.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

See previous post - daybreak 1 reported Biscan's death as a "mafia hit"

So unless the Mafia have earn more hits, they currently only have one left.

Edit: I may be reading too much into this but, if the Mafia used a secret power to force MITO into killing Biscan, wouldn't they want it to look like a Mafia hit...? Therefore...

"IBWT was found stabbed to death in what appears to be a mafia hit. IBWT was the Detective."

...the word 'appears' is a bit suspect?

 

[Brian Storm]

Was about to say they must still have two kills left since MITO used a knife but checked the rules again first

Genuine mistake or slip of the tongue from an insider

By definitions a hit doesn't necessarily mean a kill either, as a 'hit' is simply an attack Looking at the context AFC used in the rules I think we can assume a hit is just a kill and it can be by any method. Ignore me and Bullets, I meant kill. We're overthinking it. Acf's context in the rules shows we are.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

By definitions a hit doesn't necessarily mean a kill either, as a 'hit' is simply an attack Looking at the context AFC used in the rules I think we can assume a hit is just a kill and it can be by any method. Ignore me and Bullets, I meant kill. We're overthinking it. Acf's context in the rules shows we are.

Overthinking like you want the attention to go away from your Mafia roots or over thinking it screenshot style?

 

[Sir Tennisball]

They have to earn more fella. What good is a Mafia with two bullets.

So we need to think about how they would accumulate more kills. What tasks they could carry out. hmm, I wonder.

Maybe they get a bullet every time they vote for someone new?

Just kidding mito!!! [HASHTAG]#11votes[/HASHTAG]