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Ok, for now I'm going to be a sheep and give a provisional vote for Tobes until I work what the **** is going on. He can't have that many votes for nowt. I'll take a more in depth look when I wake up. Can anyone not directly involved with the accusations brief me?

 

Tobes (9): Valley, sir tennisball, Gerrez, BobbyD, Rolando, Mito, Sebbs campaign manager, ACS, Funky
Mito (1): Swarbs

Yet to vote: Tobes, lucaaas, Mikey, 666 Tash 666, Nobbertos salsa inferno, Bodanki, Less Hope than Neville

 

Mito shouldn't waste a vote investigating me as killing Tobes will confirm my story that he is NOT TOWN.

 

Tobes it is for me..The poor innocent schmuck that he no doubt is. But I will happily follow the lynch mob and wave a pitchfork about in true townie fashion

 

I said that yes. I note valley says don't.

There are two premises right now in my mind. For you its more complex.

As I know what I am, the town drunk, the two are.

1. Afc set the mafia secret power up based on the power I have the investigators in my last game. This was to have information passed on via pm to another player.

The logic is the mafia kill method is to have an innocent do the murder then have another innocent witness it.

In this case they noted me calling valley out as valley liked me but had said he was not on. And then selected me to do the killing due to my wild voting.

Or

2. Afc set this power up to force the kill but the mafia have some task in this to get something.

Valley would then be mafia using the info to have either me or Tobes or both killed.


I find option 1 the most plausible as it is simpler to me.

 

You are saying two things.

The kill will confirm that Tobes is bit town. That doesn't 100% say you've not completely played me here.

However the simplest answer is that you are psychic.

Therefore by whatever number 90% whatever the investigate would be wasted.

Ergo.... I might as well pick someone else to investigate. I should perhaps die prior to giving any more info but.....

In reality.... as I am town drunk I know I should cone third after sir tennis. I have 2/3 confidence in my info.

We do not know if the 2/3 refers to a result simply flipping or if a correct read on a bad guy is what flips.

As we don't that's why I said kill him next after Tobes.

 

At least one of you has him sussed.

His behaviour from the off has been random, his deliberate drawing of fire yesterday was a nonsense. He now conveniently claims to be the drunk and that was somehow part of his game? Why? As it's **** all to do with the role.

He's supposedly witnessed as the mafia killer and then takes 20 mins to re-appear with some utter bullshit tale about being forced to kill Biscan and that he's the drunk and Sir Tennis is probably mafia.

He's since been leading the drive to lynch me and has been all over the place with his reasoning why he should be saved. Valley was taking the piss with his supposed info (for reasons best known) but mito has forced the group to accept it (when 2 investigations / results in one night for a minor role is patently bullshit) by admitting to killing Biscan but under duress lol. In the 20 mins following nightfall he's come up with his tale and has decided to play along with Valley but while trying to ensure that he gets Sir Tennis and me lynched.

He's as guilty as sin and has been from the off, most random, now most forthright.

 

Bad move Tobes. You picked the ramblers stuff who's messing and are ignoring my replay to each and every point.

I clearly said it took 20 mins to type my response as I was getting the info on roles and double checking everything. My post is there revealing all.

If people want to they can simply look at the math.

12 town v 4 bad guys. This is not even a game to be messing in.

If I were mafia everyone else needs to ask why is Tobes misdirection as mito knows the score.

1. I pointed out yesterday the mafia are actually under powered at 3 not 4 fir the game size.

2. If I were an assassin which BTW is total guess work... why would I attract attention yesterday like I did?

3. If I were mafia no way would I have killed night one but I don't know maybe Tobes you and tennis were forced to.

4. Why did valley picked you? Valley needs ti answer that. The reason I picked sir tennis was I felt he was lurking. Last game he had to keep silent I felt this one he'd be mad to talk.

5. I have acknowledged that the town ought to snuff me next if they want to. I've merely begged you get the chop. Most damning is you never claimed a role so far so right now at worst this is some silly ploy and an innocent gets it but as a non town read.... everyone needs to realise that its not one but both of us that must be lying for you to be innocent.

Non town = maybe cartel

Simply put even if I have been utterly desperate enough to make this up you Tobes are still the juiciest target so logic dictates you go in lynch prior to recruit power.

 

Nope. You'd know if I went full bore. Read what I posted. I'm actually giving you both sides and sticking to the facts and what the option might be. If I were out to tie you in knots I'd explode the think 20 ways to Tuesday and not try and be pro town

 

I wouldn't trust Obi.
Remember the warewolf game lads... He is a conniving little get and got a lot wrong...
Plus he hates chinos.

 

Morning by the wat chaps.

 

It's quite simple.

I have done two things for the town.

1. I have actually confirmed my part of the valley story. There was a message to me saying i killed ibwt that then gives you all more info. Read back to my post saying the order otcoccurance also. That has to be supposition but the described actions align in timing.

2. I had a mafia read. If I shut up and let the mafia twist it to get me killed or in a tie with Tobes I don't help anyone.

I'll say it again and you lot who are town should Google good detective play. If you have info a 1 for 1 exchange is usually very good deal. I have revealed all to show what i found.

Finally I cannot and will not deny it can look like desperation but again. .. what do you do

Seriously do you let Tobes off as there are doubts about me.

Or do you go back to the core... he is said by valley to be non town. Ideally he is cartel.

Nobody has contradicted our two claims for roles.

 

Agree with this and I said as much last night.

 

Want to explain that bit since I have no idea what you're on about.

 

tobes i never claimed once yesterday that me being the drunk led to me acting the mick

prior to game i pointed out i was doing it and i explained why last night... to avoid someone saying oh lets kill mito he's bound to be logical and hard on us.

 

I'm in.

 

Sounds like Mafia talk to me!

 

You lot beat avenge my death properly!

 

In no way do we let Tobes off, as he was fingered by Valley and must come under suspicion, but the question remains over you. I can see two plausible versions:

1. You are the town drunk as you say, and were somehow forced to kill Biscan
2. You are the Mafia killer, you were rumbled by Valley, and you are trying to blag being the town drunk in the hope that the real drunk will come forwards and you can kill them tonight before being hung tomorrow

If 2 is correct and you are throwing Tobes under the bus, then 90% he is either cartel or serial killer. But if he's cartel then he is Pedro and we can rub him out tonight or tomorrow night without any fuss - managing to recruit one member won't destroy the cartel. So we should kill you first to stop Mafia kills, then kill Tobes.

But if we do that and 1 is correct, we kill our own investigator.

Ultimately, I think what needs to happen is that we lynch Tobes tonight, see who he is, and get Valley to investigate you. He can confirm if you are town, then we will know for tomorrow night.

So I vote Tobes

 

The mystic role has the opportunity to investigate one player, he said he supposedly did that with me, but then "on his way home" (from where ffs?) He happened to see mito with a blood covered knife in his hands....really? (what part of the game role does this come from?).

So he's asked the town to believe that 1. He's the mystic and 2. He's also got some other special gift to witness the perpetrators of a hit? Really?

Come on, this is patently absolute bobbins, if he'd have stopped after claiming to investigate me (why did he pick me btw, when the concensus was to flush out the lurkers????) then he might have got away with it, but the second part of the tale totally discredits him.

The fact that mito picked it up and ran with it, was his error, he should have dismissed it, but he gambled on the town swallowing it, so concocted his own 'excuse' of being a coerced hitman, which is beyond , come on ffs.