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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Yes like milner.

Konoplyanka is what he is. If he's there on a free he will be looking for big money so sure get him but is he any better than markovic?
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He's more refined than of our wide attackers - Ibe, Marko, Lallana, Sterling,

But Markovic has a lot more potential in the future. I'm very confident Marko will be the leading the attack in the next few years.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Fair point.

1. Aspas has already said he is going
2. jones has said he is going
3. Lambert might or might not go but if a club that can give him a year playing comes up he would take it i reckon
4. Borini actually has 2 years left and is 24. If he sticks where he is he will struggle badly to gt a decent contract. It is really down to his agent i guess. He's already damaged his future by not moving already so I think it depends on the offer he gets
5. Balotelli. I think he is nuts, I think we will sell him if we get any offer but will he go to sampdoria for instance? who knows.
6. Coates: I think he'll go for 1 or 2 mil and there are teams out there who will snap up. sunderland will prob pony up 5mil if they stay up they are that mad. again he is just coming to 25 and so needs to move or he will be on tiny wages for next years.
7. enrique. I could see him going on loan honestly.... that's the only way he will go.
8. sterling he's already done a deal somewhere. I believe thommo on that assumption.

All in all this is all dead wood including sterling, hes made it untenable now. none will pays so they are all a resource drain and frankly all bar sterling are bottom half players at best.

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On the other side... europa league next year.

I am not impressed by our options from u21 level that we can now turn to and our club needs a hard look at itself. we've neglected this are since rodgers took over (or in other words DoF was trashed) and our academy recruitment will put us back to the days where heighway was lauded but the club did **** all to make a real player.

Yesil... i need to see him fit to see if he's any future at all.

Sinclair has a long way to go.
Ojo is not all that.. I wuold demand him being on 5 year deal on low money before he gets a chance.

rossiter? Brannagan? etc etc etc..

smith and mclaughlin at full back?

none are prem players so i am struggling to write a europa team list right now for group stages.
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I think we'll be stuck with Mario for another year, can't see anyone wanting him.

Obviously, if we managed to shift all the players highlighted plsu the out of contract players too, it won't half free up some wages etc.

Jones, Johnson, Coates, Enrique, Gerrard, Lambert, Borini, Balotelli, Aspas, Sterling and Alberto is probably about £750k-£800k per week. Or if you prefer, about £39m-£41.6m per annum! <yikes>
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
I agree but he won't be anywhere near the wages Milner is asking for so it represents value for money. And is more likely to be starting most games than Milner.
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Milner will play nearly every week if he signs, he's won't be joining as a squad player.
 
Gerrez said:
I think we'll be stuck with Mario for another year, can't see anyone wanting him.

Obviously, if we managed to shift all the players highlighted plsu the out of contract players too, it won't half free up some wages etc.

Jones, Johnson, Coates, Enrique, Gerrard, Lambert, Borini, Balotelli, Aspas, Sterling and Alberto is probably about £750k-£800k per week. Or if you prefer, about £39m-£41.6m per annum! <yikes>
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Sampdoria were quoted as being interested in bringing him back to itsly
 
Kono saying he was sorry he couldn't join Liverpool last season suggests he's angling for a PL move and hasn't been able to arrange anything yet (not sure what the rules are in the Ukraine but surely he'd have been able to discuss with foreign clubs from around November).

On a free he's a no brainer. In fact, I'd be targeting the Ukraine if I was in charge... Given Ukraine's current climate players would surely want out. Would not say no to the like of Fernando, Douglas Costa, Yarmolenko or Kono.

Of course the issue is these clubs are rich and ambitious.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
DCM.. lucas, can? Again not good. Can i think could be really dynamic in this role.. he could be brilliant for us.
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Completely disagree on Can, I don't think he's suited to DM he's too slow over a short distance it's only when he get the ball out from his feet and can stride forward that he shows his pace. As much as the DM role is suited to someone who can read the game and has good positional sense it also needs that abilty to close a gap quickly and I don't think that suits him.
 
It would be impolite to take their first offer and would make them feel they've been done

Push them up to £42m and let them think they won a good fight
 
luvgonzo said:
Completely disagree on Can, I don't think he's suited to DM he's too slow over a short distance it's only when he get the ball out from his feet and can stride forward that he shows his pace. As much as the DM role is suited to someone who can read the game and has good positional sense it also needs that abilty to close a gap quickly and I don't think that suits him.
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Totally agree. Can looks good while he is pushing on but I have not seen enough discipline from him to be a holding midfielder. When he plays at RB he has somehow drifted back to the middle and charges at every chance. DMs have to be very prudent in their application of when to attack and if you limit that from Can, you lose the best attribute i.e. Box to Box.
 
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Agree with the comments on Can not being a DM but that is what makes me think Brod will play him there. Brod has shown he doesn't like a proper DM, he likes a holding player in there that can play, hence him trying to fit Gerrard in there and dropping Lucas for a while.
 
Gerrez said:
Agree with the comments on Can not being a DM but that is what makes me think Brod will play him there. Brod has shown he doesn't like a proper DM, he likes a holding player in there that can play, hence him trying to fit Gerrard in there and dropping Lucas for a while.
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You may well be right there and it'll be a mistake that'll expose our defence, as you know I'm a fan of Lucas where others are not but I would concede that due to his injuries we need someone who can do that job week after week.
 
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luvgonzo said:
You may well be right there and it'll be a mistake that'll expose our defence, as you know I'm a fan of Lucas where others are not but I would concede that due to his injuries we need someone who can do that job week after week.
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I like Lucas too but I think what you said for Can for short distances applies to Lucas too. Lucas often makes petty fouls, some say they are tactical fouls to let the team recover so we can defend properly (<laugh> ) whereas others will say he makes them because he's that bit slower than he used to be. I think its a bit of both. He is a bit slower than he used to be but he always used to make the petty fouls before too. The tackles he used to make are now the petty fouls. the petty fouls have gone because he can't get there, instead he holds position.

We do need a proper DM imo, if we can keep Lucas as well then fantastic.
 
We need a quality DM first and foremost. It's crucial to how every successful team players - the only team in recent history that achieved some success without one was Real Madrid in the CL last season.

They are pivotal - we need someone like Mascherano. I agree with Gez that I simply don't think Rodgers wants that type of player - but he'd be foolish if he doesn't.

Coquelin, who isn't great by any means, has been crucial to Arsenal since the turn of the year and it's why they were able to go on such a good run.

Even Lucas was important in our 13 game streak.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
We need a quality DM first and foremost. It's crucial to how every successful team players - the only team in recent history that achieved some success without one was Real Madrid in the CL last season.

They are pivotal - we need someone like Mascherano. I agree with Gez that I simply don't think Rodgers wants that type of player - but he'd be foolish if he doesn't.

Coquelin, who isn't great by any means, has been crucial to Arsenal since the turn of the year and it's why they were able to go on such a good run.

Even Lucas was important in our 13 game streak.
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FFS, I've done a RHC and fell over now <grr>

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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
We need a quality DM first and foremost. It's crucial to how every successful team players - the only team in recent history that achieved some success without one was Real Madrid in the CL last season.

They are pivotal - we need someone like Mascherano. I agree with Gez that I simply don't think Rodgers wants that type of player - but he'd be foolish if he doesn't.

Coquelin, who isn't great by any means, has been crucial to Arsenal since the turn of the year and it's why they were able to go on such a good run.

Even Lucas was important in our 13 game streak.
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I largely agree.

Barry did that job for us brilliantly last season. (this season he's waned, and so have we!)

United's best spell of form this season came when Carrick was playing the holding role so efficiently.

Matic has helped take Chelsea from being very good to Champions.

However the modern DM isn't merely a tough tackling defensive player, they're now the player who 'makes things tick' by reading the game well, covering their backline, intercepting the ball and moving it forwards accurately and efficiently. It's largely an unsung hero's role, but without doubt absolutely key in the modern game, as the full backs pushing on leave sides more defensively exposed, and the DM needs to offer cover.
 
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I like Lucas and certainly provided better balance to our team in that DM role than Gerrard did. Any coincidence our form picked up mid year when he came back in?

saying that, he can be improved upon, only need to look at Matic for Chelsea who does so much work that goes unnoticed and helps control the tempo of a game. He's a perfect mix between Lucas and Gerrard. Good defensively like Lucas but with a bit of drive and good passing like Gerrard.
 
Tobes said:
I largely agree.

Barry did that job for us brilliantly last season. (this season he's waned, and so have we!)

United's best spell of form this season came when Carrick was playing the holding role so efficiently.

Matic has helped take Chelsea from being very good to Champions.

However the modern DM isn't merely a tough tackling defensive player, they're now the player who 'makes things tick' by reading the game well, covering their backline, intercepting the ball and moving it forwards accurately and efficiently. It's largely an unsung hero's role, but without doubt absolutely key in the modern game, as the full backs pushing on leave sides more defensively exposed, and the DM needs to offer cover.
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Exactly - however, I'll be happy enough to get a DM who can do the defensive side first and foremost.

Whilst I bash the defence all the time, they have no protection from the midfield.
 
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