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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, May 3, 2015.

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  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    What logic is that, then!
     
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  2. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Or when you make them too easily available and dish out more than other countries would to an immigrant who hadn't paid in to the system.
     
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    So a farmer gets some work done for minimum wage. The taxpayer forks out about as much in working tax credits, even more in housing benefits, any health costs for them and their family, education costs for their kids if here, if they aren't here it gets sent back to the country where they came from. Meanwhile these people being employed by these farmers contribute about £1,000 in tax and national insurance. Great value, eh?
     
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  4. Barchullona

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    You know what they say about statistics.
     
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  5. Steven Toast

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    It is funny that most of the people moaning about immigrants taking jobs are under qualified white trash people with as many GCSE passes as they have teeth. Not sure why they're worried that some bloke with a PhD from Iraq is affecting their job market....
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    Some good news, some bad...

    Immigrants from Poland and the other nine countries that joined the EU in 2004 have contributed almost £5 billion more to the UK’s economy than they used in benefits and public services.

    Analysis by the University College London Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration found that while the fiscal contribution by European workers was overwhelmingly positive – amounting to £20 billion in a decade – the same was not true for non-EEA arrivals.

    Between 1995 and 2011, immigrants from outside the EU made a negative contribution of £118 billion over 17 years, the report found, using more publicly-funded services, including the NHS, education and benefits, than they paid in tax.
     
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  7. Barchullona

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    What on earth does a social worker have to do with socialism or workers. Most of the ones who progress in that profession are middle class types with loads of paper qualifications and no experience of life. Good at holding endless case conferences and meetings and protecting their pensions and benefits when things go wrong. Without the common sense of the average grannies at recognising genuine abuse.
     
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  8. NorthFerribyTiger

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    It's not the farmer it is the company producing pickled goods like onions, beetroot, chutney

    Without the company all these products would be imported leaving farmers with nowhere to sell & a company like Greencore no longer to pay millions in tax as it goes bust, also putting thousands of British workers out of jobs
     
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    So we allow EU workers & block non EU ones....but that's nearly the opposite ok UKIP policy as leaving the EU would not impact on non EU migrants
     
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    And there's my main reason for not voting Tory!
     
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    Ah yes the NHS, so the problems are all down to top down reorganisations, really? Not an aging population or rapid population growth?

    Is it fair that the English pay prescription charges but the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish don't?
     
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  12. Barchullona

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    Steady on there, OLM. There will be accusations of racism flying about as most EU immigrants are white and not Muslim.

    Any figures after deductions for the cost of benefits such as tax credits, child benefits, housing benefits,hospital treatments, education, imprisonment etc of the EU ones?
     
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  13. Chilton's Hundreds

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    The locals won't work because our benefits system is ****ed.
     
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    Yes, everything was perfect under Labour. Only one party have ever reduced the spending on the NHS. Guess which one that was?
     
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    I'm voting Labour, but I doubt we'll win.
    Sometimes there's an appetite for change at elections, but after a bad recession and the world-wide banking crisis I get the feeling people will stick with the current incumbents for another term.
     
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    As far as I know those figures include all benefits, though I'm pretty sure imprisonment wasn't factored in.
     
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  17. Barchullona

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    Yes, I passed a field full of person with PhDs from Iraq toiling away in the fields on my way to the supermarket where I was served by a pleasant brain surgeon from Somalia. The group of maths professors from Romania who cleaned my car at the local car wash did a good job as well.
     
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    Remember, vote No To Hull Tigers. <ok>
     
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  19. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

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    Labour/Lib Dem Coalition nailed on. Keep well clear of the Scottish Krankies. Even this bloke's worried...

     
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  20. Barchullona

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    I don't see how they could, to be honest. How do they cost some of them and how would they tie up the others?
     
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