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Off Topic Martin Samuel ... what a ****head

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  1. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    So esteemed football writer Martin Samuel has today got involved in the Jack Grealish England or Ireland debate.

    Samuel declares there should be no choice and Grealish has to play for England as he has a brummie accent and was born in England. His ancestry should only come into it if like Andy Townsend he reached 25 without an England cap then he could play for Ireland.

    He also wants Ireland to stop scouting players who can qualify for Ireland and only scout Irish born players.

    Hmm, John Barnes, Owen Hargreaves, and Raheem Sterling off the top of my head.

    Back to Grealish hes been capped by Ireland u16 and u19 and should continue with Ireland but ultimately its his decision.
     
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    Rubbersoul Well-Known Member

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    He won't be good enough for England so he May as well go to Ireland.
     
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    His hair is ****
     
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  4. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    But the choice must be his , not as marty would have it and England get first dibs on everyone.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    My view on this is quite strong

    The lad should decide via what is in his heart

    If he feels irish and has played all irish underage levels he should play ireland

    If he wants to add 20k per week to his wages and be a HG player for his entire career he should play once for england.

    Seriously if the hack should go to brum and and walk round and see how many different nationalities would lynch the ****er for being a wasp...... being born in little england and being white seems to mean you have to play for england but i doubt a different ethnic background would get this kind of stuff...
     
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    How else would they win anything otherwise <whistle>
    #zolabudd
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    How does Samuel feel about Januzaj playing for England? <whistle>
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    I think sherwood put it best when he was talking about what he said to benteleb.

    Ask the the kid of he's irish or english and depending what he says, tell him to stick with that
     
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    Apparently he thinks he shouldn't.
    #consistencyatleast
     
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    Samuel writes
    I think we have scouts also looking for Irish players in Ireland too Martin <doh>


    Kind of ironic as England scoured the commonwealth for athletes, can't find his articles about disagreeing with that.
     
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    His hair is ridic yes

    He should have free choice over who he plays for, this journos article is stone age thinking/logic
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    #mofarah

    ok he's got a london accent but he was born in ethiopia...

    who the F cares.

    lets them all freaking decide who they are and what they want to do... its only kicking a ball around a grass field anyway.
     
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    But that's the historically inherited English way of thinking isn't it, that they own anything and everything that the empire or colonials touched once, hundreds of years ago. If you look at an image of the earth there aren't any borders or lines drawn on it, and no names printed on the different territories and land masses.
     
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    True/

    What is pathetic about Samuel is he claims he is upset for Irish league players who miss out due to Ireland scoutng England for players with Irish ancestry.
    What he really means is he is pissed that a pretty decent player, who prob won't make the England senior side, will be playing for Ireland u20 and u21 teams.
     
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    If he keeps his hair like that though then he should definitely be forced to play for Queeny's boys
     
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    <laugh>

    My nan is good enough for England.
     
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    Yet she can't make the Wales squad?
     
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    That's because she's part Welsh, part English, part Irish and part Scottish, she won't play for Wales as they insist on playing her out of position at Left Back. She's a Striker FFS!
     
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    Has van Gaal given her a call yet?
     
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    Probably she gets about a bit. <laugh>
     
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