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SamKimish said:
He's referencing a now ill-founded joke that lies somewhere in the 50s/60s where people refer to the Guardian as The Grauniad (or other similar anagrams)

The name was given to it by the satirical magazine Private Eye. The Guardian newspaper earned its reputation for lots of misprints in the days of hot-metal printing when it was published in Manchester (it was originally called the Manchester Guardian), and the editions that appeared in London were very early editions brought down by train, before all the errors had been spotted.

Pretty sure hot-metal printing was abandoned by 1962 and there have been arguments put forward in the past that The Guardian contains no more spelling mistakes than any other newspaper, it just happens to have readers that are more likely to spot them.
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This is still the newspaper behind this tweet, they'll still be the Grauniad to me. :)
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
In musical based stuff that isn't Fable, I'm really liking this kid at the moment -

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Hey, that's not bad at all. Straight out of the box sounding original, yet having strong ties back to solo acoustic artists that I admire. There's more than a touch of Neil Young influence, I feel, minus the whine and American drawl [yes, I know Young is Canadian], and several others, that I would name if I had the time to recall their bloody names [gotta go shortly].

PS. I'm always slightly suspicious of guitarists who are too cool to clip off their strings..! Even worse when the cigarette or spliff is tucked between strings and head. But I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt because he sounds that good. :)
 
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TheSecondStain said:
Hey, that's not bad at all. Straight out of the box sounding original, yet having strong ties back to solo acoustic artists that I admire. There's more than a touch of Neil Young influence, I feel, minus the whine and American drawl [yes, I know Young is Canadian], and several others, that I would name if I had the time to recall their bloody names [gotta go shortly].

PS. I'm always slightly suspicious of guitarists who are too cool to clip off their strings..! Even worse when the cigarette or spliff is tucked between strings and head. But I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt because he sounds that good. :)
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Yeah, he's on the way to something good I think. Slightly ahead of Fable in terms of exposure but not known yet. I think he's a good tip for some kind of recognition though.
 
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Beefy said:
Or Labels stop being greedy bastards....
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You can't just put it on them. The streaming services need to function a deal with the labels where people are appropriately paid. It's not like labels are awash with money and just refusing to pay artists, it's not that simple. The issue with the continuation of good/interesting music is precisely because the labels can't afford to take risk. It's like any business - it's driven by risk management. Previously they could afford to make mistakes, but as a result you got genuinely interesting artists emerging. Now, not so much.

There's also a BIG difference between the majors and good independent labels.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
You can't just put it on them. The streaming services need to function a deal with the labels where people are appropriately paid. It's not like labels are awash with money and just refusing to pay artists, it's not that simple. The issue with the continuation of good/interesting music is precisely because the labels can't afford to take risk. It's like any business - it's driven by risk management. Previously they could afford to make mistakes, but as a result you got genuinely interesting artists emerging. Now, not so much.

There's also a BIG difference between the majors and good independent labels.
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Tidal will help......
 
Beefy said:
But... but Jay Z said it would! Why shouldn't we believe him? Haha
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In all seriousness, firstly I'll be staggered if Tidal actually works (artist led ventures don't tend to and it's just fraught with possibilities for cock ups), secondly, the only way it would ever help would be if the profits, that these super-rich artists don't need, are reinvested into grass roots music development, which it won't be. Tidal is hideous and might actually make things a lot, lot worse (if Apple buy Spotify as a result etc).
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
And here's why I hate pirating first, and streaming services second. The most self-defeating things to happen to music. Enjoy your Olly Murs people, cos that's all you'll get at this rate -

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/04/portishead-made-just-2500-off-34-million-streams/
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On the other hand, streaming gives people the opportunity to discover music they wouldn't have otherwise. For me personally, many songs which I've listened to on Spotify a lot I end up buying anyway. One of Us, Counting Stars,Torn, Photograph to name a few. But it was through Spotify that I grew to like the songs leading to me buying them. And two albums I've bought recently (the Decemberists and Say Lou Lou) I never would have heard without Spotify. So yes, Spotify might discourage sales in some instances, but I bet in other instances it actually leads to sales.
 
PompeyLapras said:
On the other hand, streaming gives people the opportunity to discover music they wouldn't have otherwise. For me personally, many songs which I've listened to on Spotify a lot I end up buying anyway. One of Us, Counting Stars,Torn, Photograph to name a few. But it was through Spotify that I grew to like the songs leading to me buying them. And two albums I've bought recently (the Decemberists and Say Lou Lou) I never would have heard without Spotify. So yes, Spotify might discourage sales in some instances, but I bet in other instances it actually leads to sales.
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Granted. But the preponderance of options that people take up in order not to have to pay any money for music is killing things.
 
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