The General Election Countdown Thread

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stopmeandslapme said:
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Alright - the budget surplus was in 2001 (under a Labour government still) but it was because of this that Labour subsequently had a low budget deficit later on (as a result of a house boom (which having researched extensively I didn't agree principally with but could understand) and strong revenue from taxation). Regardless of the mistakes Blair and Brown made, you can certainly argue that it was because of the Labour government's spending that led to the economic growth within the 2000s.

Either way, the stimulus of the budget led to the economy growing by just over 3% between 2009 and 2010 (just before the Tories took over). In contrast, the economy grew by 0.3% the year afterwards under the Tories.
 
Ireland had a **** load of economic growth in the 2000's, so did the USA - don't think France and Germany did too bad either. It's amazing the credit politicians get for ultimately riding on the back of the work of millions of individuals.
 
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BrunelGooner said:
Alright - the budget surplus was in 2001 (under a Labour government still) but it was because of this that Labour subsequently had a low budget deficit later on (as a result of a house boom (which having researched extensively I didn't agree principally with but could understand) and strong revenue from taxation). Regardless of the mistakes Blair and Brown made, you can certainly argue that it was because of the Labour government's spending that led to the economic growth within the 2000s.

Either way, the stimulus of the budget led to the economy growing by just over 3% between 2009 and 2010 (just before the Tories took over). In contrast, the economy grew by 0.3% the year afterwards under the Tories.
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MalteseMick said:
Ireland had a **** load of economic growth in the 2000's, so did the USA - don't think France and Germany did too bad either. It's amazing the credit politicians get for ultimately riding on the back of the work of millions of individuals.
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^^^ ****ers
 
MalteseMick said:
Ireland had a **** load of economic growth in the 2000's, so did the USA - don't think France and Germany did too bad either. It's amazing the credit politicians get for ultimately riding on the back of the work of millions of individuals.
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Hark at Mick the Marxist :eek:
 
BrunelGooner said:
Actually it was The Guardian & ICM polls.



On some issues, I did agree with Farage although it was more of a general consensus. However, the main things which his party stands for are reducing immigration, slashing the foreign aid budget and leaving the EU - all of which I disagree with quite strongly.



This has been proven to be incorrect by so many different studies.

The Economist; http://www.economist.com/news/brita...ce-research-what-have-immigrants-ever-done-us

Studies by the University College London; https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1114/051114-economic-impact-EU-immigration

Not really sure why these myths keep getting bandied about. You really do need to do your research on these issues.



Also not true.



Again - this is just simply isn't true. I've warned you about peddling these myths. Stop it.



Do you enjoy being wrong or something? Obviously we should not let everyone in e.g. those who have committed or attempted to commit terrorist activities or those who have been imprisoned for horrific crimes, but we shouldn't nor do we need to limit it to 'exceptional circumstances'.

As for there not being enough wealth to go around - also not true. Today's cash that we see accounts for just 3% of the total money within the economy. Banks have actually increased the amount of money within the economy by 12% over the last 40 years. There is more money and wealth now then there has been in the course of history. The issue is the unfairness of the distribution and the lack of punishment for the tax evaders and selfish bankers who put the money that they were meant to use as a stimulus in the economy into their own dividends for their own greed and self-benefit.



There has been no evidence whatsoever to show this. But since you're persistent in peddling this myth - what about the bills the rest of Europe has to be for our migrants?



1. I am not a ''clear Labour supporter''. I didn't agree with a lot of the things Miliband was saying yesterday but I would rather have them in power than the Conservatives who have done their best to privatise everything that they possibly can and serve the interests of the corporate companies out there who prioritise profit over everything else.

2. Labour did indeed make some massive mistakes, but the fact remains that just before the Tories took over, we had a budget surplus, a wage increase in real terms and higher living standards than we do now. Blair and Brown made some controversial and poorly-judged decisions, particularly the former, but none were as bad as the odious creature that is David Cameron.
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Well if the Guardian the most pro Labour paper out there thinks Miliband won then he must of <laugh>

Everyone who reads the Guardian is a clear labour supporter, that is why you read it!

Miliband at best came 5th on the night, the SNP women really showed him up whilst Cameron got the best laugh of the night when he pointed out that 80 Labour MPs employ people on zero hour contracts. He only got off lightly with Farage, as it was in both leaders interests to form an alliance against Cameron.

Miliband and Labours views should of seen Miliband have a go at Farage, for some of his opinions, but he didn't want to risk getting Farage against him. So he tactfully ignored what he truly believes in. Just goes to show the charecter of the man. He'll do anything to get into power even if it involves not standing up for what he truly believes.

He even agreed with Farage when Farage said Labour made mistakes in there last government. He was brown nosing him to stop him starting on him <laugh>

Those studies you have put up aren't factual, they are just written by people who are also of a similar opinion to you. Immigrants themselves likely write these type of articles.

It is not a myth that the country is full up, it is my opinion that it is full up. Whilst it's your opinion that it isn't. No myths what so ever. On a space per person scale we must be the most populated country in Europe, and one of the most populated in the world. I'd imagine only a few country's in Asia are more populated in comparison to land.

The banks may have increased the money by 12%, but that doesn't take into account inflation. Everything is getting more expensive by the year, and a 12% increase is knowhere near enough to account for inflation. A pound is not as valuable as it was years ago. Besides have you not lived in this country for the past 10 years, through the recession and the credit crunch?

How has there been no evidence of foreigners taking advantage of the NHS? You really are delusional. Nigel Farage made a great point about 60% of people being treated for HIV at £25,000 a year being non nationals. So if that's not evidence, then what is? I'm sure there are lots of other instances of this, it's not just going to be on HIV treatment.

As far as the rest of Europe is concerned, I've had to get health insurance everytime I've been anywhere there. Yet they can come here and get treated for free, and then go home. So our citizens aren't being treated the same abroad as foreigners are here.

The only reason the living standards where apparently better under Labour is because Blair and Brown selfishly did everything they could to keep themselves in power for so long. This meant borrowing billions of pounds to dish out in benefits to keep voters sweet. They weren't running the country in it's best interests, they where just selfishly running it to keep themselves in a job for the short term. Now for the next 20 or so years, the rest of us are going to have to pay for their selfishness :biggrin:
 
A lot of talk about immigration and it is just one issue, there are many other more important issues but here are my thoughts...

Think of your country as a nightclub. We are all members and we want to have a good time in a safe and relaxed environment. We employ bouncers to keep out the undesirables.

You can make up your own minds as to who are the undesirables*

*not me - I'm already here.
 
Shergar, sweetpee, inflation hasn't topped 6% in the last ten years. It has actually averaged around 2% and is currently sitting at 0%

Also.

The Tories have slashed benifits andstill managed to borrow more than llabour ever did.

So

Stop talking ****e.
 
King Shergar said:
So all these countries offer wealthare and free health care without having to have paid a penny into the system? <doh>
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I haven't the foggiest, but that isn't what you claimed in your post. You said that no other country accommodates immigrants as much as the UK. All the countries I listed have a population with a higher percentage of immigrants than the UK and you're therefore talking bollocks. You can shove your <doh> up your arse.
 
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Foxy Knoxy said:
I haven't the foggiest, but that isn't what you claimed in your post. You said that no other country accommodates immigrants as much as the UK. All the countries I listed have a population with a higher percentage of immigrants than the UK and you're therefore talking bollocks. You can shove your up your arse.
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Accommodate can mean a lot of things like help and aid, and we certainly help immigrants financially more than any of those countries do. So you can have this back <doh>
 
Foxy Knoxy said:
It's not my fault if you leave yourself open to attack by making ambiguous statements, you mad xenophobe. <doh>
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So the rest of the world must be xenophobic then. My mindset and opinions are pretty normal in most country's across the world. It certainly isn't xenophobic to not want to spend money on immigrants. Only those who have paid into the system here should be entitled to healthcare and welfare benefits :biggrin:
 
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