everyone is talking like the race is already over nearly 24 hours before it's started. As for Webbers chances, we'll see what happens if Vettel is running 2nd to him in the final parts of the race.
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Alonso and Webber have the advantage of the clean side, so unless he Webber messes up the start, Vettel's chances of winning are very unlikely imo
Is the pole side on the inside towards T1 or outside?
I also predict a bad Webber or Vettel start.
I also predict a bad Webber or Vettel start.
I'm surprised that i'm the only person who picked Mark Webber. I thought a few more would try, considering how good he was last year.
To put this hideous cock-up behind us all. IMO this is the worst GP weekend since USA 2005 and it's all down to Charlie Whiting being weak and ill-informed. The FIA made a decision before the Spanish GP and have compromised that decision every time the teams opened their mouths. I agreed with the original directive but this is a complete joke so let them waste fuel and run movable aero devices for the rest of the season since we're eight races in and write the season off as 'won by illegal means'.
Stupid.
What is the point to have a meeting 2 and a half hours before the race, if they cannot change anything for the race???
It doesn't make sense to me. And if I am right there is a 2 week gap to Germany, so they can meet somewhere in the world to discuss these issues along with all the engine manufactures.
What is the point to have a meeting 2 and a half hours before the race, if they cannot change anything for the race???
It doesn't make sense to me. And if I am right there is a 2 week gap to Germany, so they can meet somewhere in the world to discuss these issues along with all the engine manufactures.
I hope this is giving Charlie Whiting sleepless nights, it might teach him not to meddle with things mid-season. I agree they'll struggle to find a middle ground but Horner said before qualifying that "Charlie made an offer. Red Bull has also offered a concession this weekend to run as we are." Basically Red Bull and Renault have agreed not to protest this week on the proviso that they'll go back to Valencia spec after this weekend. They've shot themselves in the foot by ****ing with things at the eleventh hour, and have given the Renault teams a strong bargaining position.
I really want to know what Ferrari are doing with their's. Nothing has been said about them and they've gained a lot through it.
Because it's the last time they'll all be in one place until the next GP and we really don't want the idiot Whiting spoiling the German GP the way he's spoiled the British GP.
I prefer the term 'won by legally illegal means', but yes the FIA and Charile Whiting have been weak and dithering about the whole matter and have put F1 in a bit of a laughable position. I do not think it is quite as bad as USA 2005 because that was more visually embarrassing.
It should just be the engine manufacturers. The team principles know nothing the engine manufacturers don't (the grey area stems from how much overrun the they need to cool the engine, not any aerodynamic benefits). Horner, Whitmarsh etc are only trying to secure their teams an advantage.
Yeah but for me it will make more sense to have it after the race or during the 2 week gap, to avoid and loopholes, as Whiting could say something and they record it they change settings and use the audio recording as evidence....
Sounds stupid doesn't it...
Maybe, but crucially shouldn't they let the aero head at all the teams to come as well, as it affects the diffuser performance??
I think it's pretty much even between the top three. Vettel has better tyre management than Webber, as long as he doesn't lose his cool trying to get past him. Apparently Red Bull are losing half a second per pitstop because of the positioning of their pit garage, so Alonso could have a strategic advantage when it comes to using the undercut.
I'm hoping we get some rain, nothing major, just awkward little showers like today.
I'm hoping we get some rain, nothing major, just awkward little showers like today.
It's not fair to the drivers or the fans with the FIA changing regulations every day by ****ing around with the cars like this. I know every team wont be happy without an advantage, but you cant just start giving "hall passes" to teams knowing of a loophole trying to palm it off as a reliability issue.
Alonso is right, it's getting boring...
Alonso is right, it's getting boring...
But the FIA's argument is that the throttle shouldn't be used as a moveable aerodynamic device, so any aerodynamic argument has no foundation. They'd want to restrict it to 0% open off throttle, but the teams need it open a little to allow the engine to function properly, the grey area is that different engines need different amounts. Mercedes also claim they need to inject fuel on the overrun for some reason.
Yep.
Link for anyone who missed the interview...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/14094066.stm
Please see: http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/07/08/red-bull-pushes-fia-for-pit-speed-limit-change/
"One source told me that Vettel claimed at the briefing that the RBR cars face a loss of 0.5s at each stop, although an apparently better informed Charlie Whiting told him he’d heard it was closer to 0.29s."
As far as the rest of your comment goes, I don't think 0.29 would make much difference, especially as Red Bull's pit stops have been much faster than Ferrari's this year.
EDIT: Mods, which coward is writing the bitchy tags about Mifune? Is it PMC?