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Swords Hoopster. said:
Either there are posters who agree with you and are all gone on a three year holiday or you're hearing voices in your head pal
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I'm going to kindly ask you to drop this tit for tat with Col on this matter now Swords. I appreciate you and Col both give as good as you get and it's sometimes amusing to see the banter between you both. However, I think the 'hearing voices in your head pal' comment is overstepping the mark somewhat.

Col, as well as the rest of us are hurting at the moment. The last thing we need on here is our members winding each other up. The situation unfolding around us on a match by match basis does enough of that already. Cheers in advance <cheers>
 
I can't make Hoilett out, to be honest. He was good for Blackburn, and looked a real prospect when he first came to us. But apart from the odd, tantalising flash of quality, he has failed to produce, and on Saturday, looked woeful. I think some other club should try and get the best out of him, because we've clearly failed
 
QPAAAAAGH said:
We at least need a good barney to keep the disappointment at bay...
  1. Sandro's performance was the worst since Bosingwa in terms of lack of effort. Should never wear the hoops again.
  2. Ramsey should be shot for playing him ahead of Henry and Taraabt or at least not bringing him off earlier when it was clear he couldn't give a toss.
  3. Conversely, this was arguably Barton's best performance for the club. Simply magnificent and did the work of two (just as well given Sandro's efforts).
  4. Everton employed some shockingly cynical tactics. Where did Martinez get his rep for attractive football?
  5. I have finally abandoned all hope for Toilett. Many have reached this conclusion long ago but I'm just plain stubborn/stupid. No brain and less and less pace = SWP mark II.
  6. We clearly have a crate load of problems but more than anything we were unlucky today as we have been for most of the season.
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My thoughts:
1. I do not think that Sandro was not trying at all: he just kept giving it away.
2. I do not blame CR for anything because my expectations are not high anyway. Thinking that a bloke in his 50's who has been ably coaching since he retired from playing could suddenly turnaround a struggling team was never on. Big difference between coaching on a training pitch and coaching and managing in a game. Anyone remember Stewart Houston?
3. I am a Joey fan and sure he gave his all yesterday, but does he really have to take every free kick? I would have liked to have seen a bit more aggression from Phillips and Hoilett in getting the ball back as this would have enabled Joey to press on a bit more.
4. I do not think that Everton were any worse than several other teams I have seen; one exception was in the second half when no 26 faked a foul. Cannot remember if he got booked?
5. I lost patience with hoillet , SWP and Phillips a long time ago.
6. We did deserve something and the only reason I keep going is that the players do not give up. They are playing for the manager and the fans. We are just not quite good enough for this league .
 
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qprbeth said:
I have no reason to say this...except what I see....a fundamental problem is with Ramseys attitude to Austin.
This is why CR starts with OBZ and basically builds the team round those two.
So no position for a tricky no 10....so no Vargas or Taarbs....Phillips (good thing) and Junior (bad thing) play....We are limited in defense so we have to play a DM so Sandro or Henry plays...leaving only one other that is Joey.

With Austin dictating the playing style....the team picks itself... simples.
Perhaps a hard sod like Sherwood would have kept us up.
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The only game we've won since Christmas Austin wasn't playing. But there's no way Ramsey could drop him because Ramsey hasn't got the status or track record to do anything this radical.
 
N22hoop said:
The only game we've won since Christmas Austin wasn't playing. But there's no way Ramsey could drop him because Ramsey hasn't got the status or track record to do anything this radical.
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Don't follow that. Ramsey isn't picking the type of team I think he should use too often, but he has played kids, has beens, and changed and changed again. Wrongly often probably, but you can hardly accuse him of not doing anything radical. I won't be surprised if he leaves out Austin. He's not a shoe in any more based on his performancea this year.
 
I was looking at league table & after 17 games we had 17 points & steady & up to 15th & 10 points ahead of Leicester, and how the hell have we collapsed so badly in 13 games! Picking up 5 points when so many of those games was winable.
 
QPR Oslo said:
Don't follow that. Ramsey isn't picking the type of team I think he should use too often, but he has played kids, has beens, and changed and changed again. Wrongly often probably, but you can hardly accuse him of not doing anything radical. I won't be surprised if he leaves out Austin. He's not a shoe in any more based on his performancea this year.
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Austin is a goal scorer.........full stop. We need to find a way of playing that creates more chances for him. Not one clear cut chance was made for him on Sunday, but I think there would have been had Taarabt and Vargas been on longer.
 
rangercol said:
Austin is a goal scorer.........full stop. We need to find a way of playing that creates more chances for him. Not one clear cut chance was made for him on Sunday, but I think there would have been had Taarabt and Vargas been on longer.
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Agree with that. We need to play the likes of Adel, Vargas, Krancjar if we can to create more chances. But I am afraid Austin is not quite in the same form he was before New Year.
 
QPR Oslo said:
Agree with that. We need to play the likes of Adel, Vargas, Krancjar if we can to create more chances. But I am afraid Austin is not quite in the same form he was before New Year.
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No he isn't, but he can't score without the ball.
 
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