Off Topic His Supreme Clarksonship

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carrabuh said:
Were there black people present when he said this?
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What you say in your own home or in the pub with your friends is your business, but If you upload it on youtube or TV then you will offend people.
I find racist comics funny and have used all the worst words possible but TV personalities on a car comedy show do not have this freedom because many people watching the show will be offended.
Do I really need to explain this?.
 
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Drunky said:
'Oh so you have that on good authority do you' I took that sentence the wrong way then, sorry. I thought you were implying he was.

I still believe he isn't a racist but accept he tells jokes that can offend people. But if people don't like him then fair enough, I'm not here trying to change anyone's mind.
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Fair enough Drunky, that position I can certainly accept. My argument is not about the jokes, it is the driving like a lunatic particularly that really upsets me. The other things are unnecesarry but 'can' be funny. It can be a close call sometimes.
 
SUPERNORWICH 23 said:
What you say in your own home or in the pub with your friends is your business, but If you upload it on youtube or TV then you will offend people.
I find racist comics funny and have used all the worst words possible but TV personalities on a car comedy show do not have this freedom because many people watching the show will be offended.
Do I really need to explain this?.
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Did he release it personally then?
 
The current issue seems to be purely an internal affair, so it will get sorted out one way or another - my guess is that it will be resolved without Clarkson losing his job.
Anything that has been said or seen on Top Gear is surely a matter for the BBC and the producers of the program, not about the presenter - you wouldn't expect the person who delivers the marketing leaflets for Virgin to take the flack if they were considered offensive, you'd be looking to Branson and his marketing director to cop for that.
Anything Clarkson, or any other individual, does or says is their own business as far as I'm concerned. We have laws that people have to abide by or face the consequences, but anything else is surely just moral, behavioural, cultural, regional and age variance that makes us all different.
Personally, I think he has created a very successful character that he plays, and it's pretty obvious that many millions of people find that character funny and engaging and inoffensive.
 
carrabuh said:
Did he release it personally then?
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He said the line ,they filmed it , it was cut from the show, someone uploaded it on Youtube.
If a black person decides to click on the video and finds it offensive that would be classed as racism.
 
SUPERNORWICH 23 said:
He said the line ,they filmed it , it was cut from the show, someone uploaded it on Youtube.
If a black person decides to click on the video and finds it offensive that would be classed as racism.
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Would it???? Surely not. How can someone muttering to himself be considered to be being offensive to another individual? The test must be that the other person felt threatened, intimidated, fearful or in some way violated?
 
SUPERNORWICH 23 said:
He said the line ,they filmed it , it was cut from the show, someone uploaded it on Youtube.
If a black person decides to click on the video and finds it offensive that would be classed as racism.
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I disagree, for one you stated he did it deliberately to offend black people. He clearly didn't. Secondly, merely saying the song does not make you racist.

He may well be racist, I don't know, but I think the term is thrown around too freely by those who are desperate to be offended.
 
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NCFC Dorset Branch said:
Would it???? Surely not. How can someone muttering to himself be considered to be being offensive to another individual? The test must be that the other person felt threatened, intimidated, fearful or in some way violated?
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Here's an Idea, next time you are at a football match , shout out ni***er every time a black player touches the ball and dazzle the stewards with your clever debating skills on the way to the police station.
 
I'm pretty sure that you telling me to "**** off you thick ****" could be classed as offensive .
Classy .<doh>
Nice stealth moderating of the original post and my quote of the post.
You should work for the BBC.
 
SN, not meant as stealth moderating, the system should have notified you as to why, but I'll admit I'm still getting used to the new software.

Edit: Apparently it does but doesn't let you know who the message is from, ta.
 
Someone says "**** off you thick ****" but my quoting this with "the Warky method" is more offensive.
WOW .
Just wow I will PM Warky to apologise <laugh>
Just wow
 
carrabuh said:
Were there black people present when he said this?
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Why would you have to be black to be offended?

Whether or not he is a racist, I still think he's a bellend of the very highest order, an arrogant, smug bastard who is vastly overpaid and thinks he can get away with whatever he wants, regardless of who he offends - why is that anything to be admired? So what if he makes a lot of money for the bbc, why does that give him a license to be an arsehole?

His apology for that incident was one of the more pathetic things I've ever seen in a while "I did everything in my power not to use that word but obviously that wasn't quite good enough".

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Wouldn't trust the bloke as far as I could throw him, and that's the general barometer I use to whether I like someone or not. I'd put my money on it all being some kind of way for him to angle his way out of the bbc and into a mega bucks contract with Sky, seems to me like he's trying to get himself sacked after all the stuff he's done in the past year or so.
 
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Tony_Munky_Canary said:
Why would you have to be black to be offended?

Whether or not he is a racist, I still think he's a bellend of the very highest order, an arrogant, smug bastard who is vastly overpaid and thinks he can get away with whatever he wants, regardless of who he offends - why is that anything to be admired? So what if he makes a lot of money for the bbc, why does that give him a license to be an arsehole?

His apology for that incident was one of the more pathetic things I've ever seen in a while "I did everything in my power not to use that word but obviously that wasn't quite good enough".

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Wouldn't trust the bloke as far as I could throw him, and that's the general barometer I use to whether I like someone or not. I'd put my money on it all being some kind of way for him to angle his way out of the bbc and into a mega bucks contract with Sky, seems to me like he's trying to get himself sacked after all the stuff he's done in the past year or so.
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You don't.
The point was made that he said it to deliberately offend black people. I don't think he did.
 
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