Is LVG underachieving?

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UnitedinRed said:
Absolute rubbish. No offence but you are talking bollocks.

Incapable of changing it? He moved from a 442 diamond to a 352 formation and as a result the leagues longest unbeaten run happened. The number of goals conceded dropped significantly and the goals scored remained about the same.

What was Moyes excuse when he turned down Kroos last summer? (a fergie target) Or when he didnt buy a single defender nor show any interest in them? Or what about messing up a signing that the club had been working on for a year already? Was that Woodward fault or was it dithering Dave who just couldnt make his mind up?

Woodward showed his abilty the summer just gone. Moyes has shown his entire career that he doesn't have a clue with transfers.
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Reading the replies of others to your posts here suggest your the one talking bollocks. Di Maria a better CM than Kroos and Fabregas? Do you watch football?
 
UnitedinRed said:
Absolute rubbish. No offence but you are talking bollocks.

Incapable of changing it? He moved from a 442 diamond to a 352 formation and as a result the leagues longest unbeaten run happened. The number of goals conceded dropped significantly and the goals scored remained about the same.

What was Moyes excuse when he turned down Kroos last summer? (a fergie target) Or when he didnt buy a single defender nor show any interest in them? Or what about messing up a signing that the club had been working on for a year already? Was that Woodward fault or was it dithering Dave who just couldnt make his mind up?

Woodward showed his abilty the summer just gone. Moyes has shown his entire career that he doesn't have a clue with transfers.
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Moyes did very very well with very little money at Everton in the transfer market. He wasn't given a chance at Utd. He put a few players noses out of joint and they responded by being crap. LVG has no excuses. Quite frankly, if we weren't playing piss poor football ourselves atm, I'd fancy us to beat you by a couple of goals next week.
 
Its pointless people, UiR will not accept anything less than LvG's total god like status.
All of last seasons misery was purely down to Moyes and LvG has overachieved and got you back to perfection.....The guy is nuts!"
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
Reading the replies of others to your posts here suggest your the one talking bollocks. Di Maria a better CM than Kroos and Fabregas? Do you watch football?
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You mean ruff and treble?

Watching football last season would suggest di maria was better than both. Significantly better than Fabregas.
 
UnitedinRed said:
Blind is fantastic and exactly what we needed. Di maria was one of the best players on earth when we bought him. His form has tailed off but hes still a world class player.

Are they better. Well Blind is for the DM role. Di maria is a better player than both fabregas and kroos so that leaves Herrera. Either one would have been better than him but neither would have solved the defensive problems. Fabregas would have caused significantly more as hes hasnt got a clue defensively.
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Completely different players but if you are going to make a comparison. Kroos>Di Maria all day long
 
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Bodanki' said:
Its pointless people, UiR will not accept anything less than LvG's total god like status.
All of last seasons misery was purely down to Moyes and LvG has overachieved and got you back to perfection.....The guy is nuts!"
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Seriously chav. Try not talking bollocks for once. Ive been as critical as anyone over van Gaal but at the same time I have the sense to realise the position we are im, what we have lost and what our aims are right now.

If others have a different opinion that is their choice. Most of them are morons who support other clubs (below us) who are bitter idiots.
 
UnitedinRed said:
You mean ruff and treble?

Watching football last season would suggest di maria was better than both. Significantly better than Fabregas.
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Kroos was outstanding last season and this season, Fabregas v Di Maria this season is also a no brainer. Di Maria for me, has always been overrated. If I was LVG I'd sell him in the summer and pay whatever it takes to bring Bale to Old Trafford.
 
London's Only EC Winners said:
Completely different players but if you are going to make a comparison. Kroos>Di Maria all day long
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Yeh. No...

Perhaps you can explain why Di maria has scored more and created as many goals as kroos in far fewer games and without the goal machine that is Ronaldo?

After all. You base di marias status purely on him setting up ronaldo....
 
UnitedinRed said:
Seriously chav. Try not talking bollocks for once. Ive been as critical as anyone over van Gaal but at the same time I have the sense to realise the position we are im, what we have lost and what our aims are right now.

If others have a different opinion that is their choice. Most of them are morons who support other clubs (below us) who are bitter idiots.
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You love it MiR
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
Kroos was outstanding last season and this season, Fabregas v Di Maria this season is also a no brainer. Di Maria for me, has always been overrated. If I was LVG I'd sell him in the summer and pay whatever it takes to bring Bale to Old Trafford.
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Well based on this season up to now its fab> di maria > kroos.

Last season it was di maria> kroos > fab.
 
Bodanki' said:
You love it MiR
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No offence chav but you do. Hell you cant even make up you mind if you agree with me or not day by day.

Oh, and you like buffy the vampire slayer <laugh>. You're in no position to try and take the mick out lf anyone <whistle>
 
UnitedinRed said:
Well based on this season up to now its fab> di maria > kroos.

Last season it was di maria> kroos > fab.
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So why did RM sell him?

Fabregas and Kroos alongside Carrick would have been perfect for your midfield. Instead your left with Fellaini, Blind and Dobbie. I know which midfield I'd prefer.
Can you imagine Kroos and Fabregas feeding balls through for Rooney <ok>
 
UnitedinRed said:
No offence chav but you do. Hell you cant even make up you mind if you agree with me or not day by day.

Oh, and you like buffy the vampire slayer <laugh>. You're in no position to try and take the mick out lf anyone <whistle>
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<doh>
I agreed with you that I wouldn't call LvG's term so far as a disaster, as they were claiming on the Liverpool board.
You on the other hand, said he overachieved, which is frankly ridiculous.
Oh and erm...Buffy....I was 14 when it came out! <doh> Any teenage kid who wasnt into SMG at the time, I would think bats for the other team.....
 
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ValleyGraduate12 said:
So why did RM sell him?

Fabregas and Kroos alongside Carrick would have been perfect for your midfield. Instead your left with Fellaini, Blind and Dobbie. I know which midfield I'd prefer.
Can you imagine Kroos and Fabregas feeding balls through for Rooney <ok>
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They didnt want to and made quite a show about it. He wanted to leave just as Kroos wanted to leave Bayern.

Barcelona threw Fabregas away because they know him for what he really is. Be interesting to see how Cesc gets om on tye second half of the season. Hes well known for his disappearing act.
 
UnitedinRed said:
They didnt want to and made quite a show about it. He wanted to leave just as Kroos wanted to leave Bayern.

Barcelona threw Fabregas away because they know him for what he really is. Be interesting to see how Cesc gets om on tye second half of the season. Hes well known for his disappearing act.
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Which is?
 
Bodanki' said:
<doh>
I agreed with you that I wouldn't call LvG's term so far as a disaster, as they were claiming on the Liverpool board.
You on the other hand, said he overachieved, which is frankly ridiculous.
Oh and erm...Buffy....I was 14 when it came out! <doh> Any teenage kid who wasnt into SMG at the time, I would think bats for the other team.....
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Too easy bod. The <whistle> should have warned you. I bet you liked angel as well though.

And i never said he was overachieving. I said you can spin it both ways and then did.

Glad i could clear that up.
 
UnitedinRed said:
Too easy bod. The <whistle> should have warned you. I bet you liked angel as well though.

And i never said he was overachieving. I said you can spin it both ways and then did.

Glad i could clear that up.
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Angel was a better show actually :emoticon-0109-kiss:
My view has stayed the same, he hasnt done as well as I thought he would
 
UnitedinRed said:
Yeh. No...

Perhaps you can explain why Di maria has scored more and created as many goals as kroos in far fewer games and without the goal machine that is Ronaldo?

After all. You base di marias status purely on him setting up ronaldo....
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Because they play in different positions <doh>

Di Maria is not a deep CM, which is where Fab and Kroos have played this season. Do you even watch football?

fab has more assists than ADM as does Kroos btw, but they play in completely different positions.
 
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