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I think Alf Garnett has a point. Some posters are saying they know no female that likes to be disrespected. Well I've come across a few in my time who are with blokes who treat them like sh*t. Others who love the "bad boys". I'd say there are quite a few who like being disrespected. But then again, there's possibly plenty of men who like being doormats too.



I don't know much about this S&M lark. I thought it was a chocolate sweet. But if I'm getting the general gist of it right, I'm guessing the word "No" would be part and parcel of it, no?

(Or maybe I'm just clueless in these matters :frown:)


Lol,

I got some gift vouchers at Christmas to spend in S&M, I can't say I shop there very often....
 
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I think Alf Garnett has a point. Some posters are saying they know no female that likes to be disrespected. Well I've come across a few in my time who are with blokes who treat them like sh*t. Others who love the "bad boys". I'd say there are quite a few who like being disrespected. But then again, there's possibly plenty of men who like being doormats too.



I don't know much about this S&M lark. I thought it was a chocolate sweet. But if I'm getting the general gist of it right, I'm guessing the word "No" would be part and parcel of it, no?

(Or maybe I'm just clueless in these matters :frown:)

I have work with people who have been abused by their partners and many of them are in that situation because they have been abused all their lives. No one has ever treated them with respect or suggested to them that they are worthy of respect. Please do not confuse this with them liking being disrespected. Inside most there beats a heart that is still hoping for a knight in shining armour to save her.

As for the "bad boy" thing ..... women often have a belief that they will be the ones to tame the men ;)
 
I have work with people who have been abused by their partners and many of them are in that situation because they have been abused all their lives. No one has ever treated them with respect or suggested to them that they are worthy of respect. Please do not confuse this with them liking being disrespected. Inside most there beats a heart that is still hoping for a knight in shining armour to save her.

There's a lot of truth in this. Also, I think that there's a condition whereby the human mind sticks to what it knows - if you're not used to happiness then you almost avoid it for fear of not being fulfilled by it and almost crave sadness because it's safer emotionally (I don't think that makes as much sense as I'd like). It's symptomatic of deep depression, possibly trauma and is truly heart-breaking.
 
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There's a lot of truth in this. Also, I think that there's a condition whereby the human mind sticks to what it knows - if you're not used to happiness then you almost avoid it for fear of not being fulfilled by it and almost crave sadness because it's safer emotionally (I don't think that makes as much sense as I'd like). It's symptomatic of deep depression, possibly trauma and is truly heart-breaking.

I think you are spot on
 
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Me thinks you need to understand the distinct difference between rape and domination, and it begins and ends with the word 'No'.
really? In 50 shades off grey she doesn't say 'break into my house and forcibly have sex with me' after she 'jokingly' dumps him, nor does she give him any inclination that he can, which would be consensual S & M. What happens in the book is she dumps him, so the affronted 'hero' of this erotic fiction, written by a woman for women, breaks into her house and forcibly has sex with her. That isn't what occurs in S & M where everything is consensual, that is what occurs in a rape.

The reason the poorly written crap is so popular amongst women is because, according to pretty much every psychological study into women's sexual fantasies there has ever been, rape is a womans most popular fantasy. Female psychologists and journalists have written numerous articles about it, so it isn't a myth spread by their male counterparts to excuse it. Sadly, most moronic fools like to jump on their high horses espousing a morality that doesn't fit the truth, and those some stupid people believe that a person relaying that information, information freely available to anyone with an internet connection, also subscribes to commiting those actions and are themselves guilty of being some sort of rapist. well, sorry to tell you but I'm not, though I'd bet most of you couldn't say the same, I bet most of you have had sex with a woman after she's been drinking, something I've never done, technically it's rape, as Ched Evans found out. As for my respect for women, some I respect, most I don't, it's not sexism though, peoples gender doesn't come into it, why should I respect people who lack intelligence?

After you dig me out abouth what I've written I expect you all to turn your spleens on the psychologists who carried out their studies and all the women they studied and who answered the questionaires,
 
Nice editing, I don't have much respect for any people, regardless of their gender, why should I? Their spoon fed bullshit morality, I bet most of the people digging me have had sex with girls that had been drinking beforehand (rape), and voted for one of the large selection of MPs we have that are guilty of being war criminals.

I'd rather stand on my own than with a crowd of fools.
 
We are all part of society, and we all make the 'rules' - we can choose to treat women the same way we treat men. Pretending otherwise is weak and disingenuous.

I have 2 boys, I want them to grow up understanding that it's not ok to treat women like second class citizens. i think that would make a better society - maybe one where banter which involved filming people having sex in toilets isn't treated as a laugh and instead a pretty sordid action and as equally reprehensible as everyone seems to find someone sucking someone else off on a toilet.

You know what? Every woman is someone's sister, mother, aunt - and every time the word slag, slut, slapper or any of the others is used it disrespects women, all women, and I don't believe that anyone on here would think that's ok.

Thank you for saying everything I was thinking. 100% behind you.
 
Miggins.... Sorry I am too STUPID to reply to this email.... I am obviously not of your intelligence... You who have read 50 Shades of Grey....me too stupid to read..it! Me too stupid to support a proper footy team (some truth in that my QPR brothers).
Me too stupid to reply to one of the most disgusting post I have read.

I am so stupid all I can think to say is.... Go forth and multiply.. toad.
 
really? In 50 shades off grey she doesn't say 'break into my house and forcibly have sex with me' after she 'jokingly' dumps him, nor does she give him any inclination that he can, which would be consensual S & M. What happens in the book is she dumps him, so the affronted 'hero' of this erotic fiction, written by a woman for women, breaks into her house and forcibly has sex with her. That isn't what occurs in S & M where everything is consensual, that is what occurs in a rape.

The reason the poorly written crap is so popular amongst women is because, according to pretty much every psychological study into women's sexual fantasies there has ever been, rape is a womans most popular fantasy. Female psychologists and journalists have written numerous articles about it, so it isn't a myth spread by their male counterparts to excuse it. Sadly, most moronic fools like to jump on their high horses espousing a morality that doesn't fit the truth, and those some stupid people believe that a person relaying that information, information freely available to anyone with an internet connection, also subscribes to commiting those actions and are themselves guilty of being some sort of rapist. well, sorry to tell you but I'm not, though I'd bet most of you couldn't say the same, I bet most of you have had sex with a woman after she's been drinking, something I've never done, technically it's rape, as Ched Evans found out. As for my respect for women, some I respect, most I don't, it's not sexism though, peoples gender doesn't come into it, why should I respect people who lack intelligence?

After you dig me out abouth what I've written I expect you all to turn your spleens on the psychologists who carried out their studies and all the women they studied and who answered the questionaires,
Jesus Christ you need help. I am not at all surprised that your knowledge of women comes from the internet.

You should respect, or at least not despise, people who are not as intelligent as you (...I dread to think) because THEY CAN'T HELP IT. It's their genetic and environmental heritage. To think anything other is fascism, even if you think you are some kind of crusader with your pathetic anti Australian avatar.
 
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Miggins.... Sorry I am too STUPID to reply to this email.... I am obviously not of your intelligence... You who have read 50 Shades of Grey....me too stupid to read..it! Me too stupid to support a proper footy team (some truth in that my QPR brothers).
Me too stupid to reply to one of the most disgusting post I have read.

I am so stupid all I can think to say is.... Go forth and multiply.. toad.
Once again, in caps, because you actually do seem too stupid to get the message.

GO AND BITCH AT THE WOMEN WHO WERE STUDIED AND THE PSYCHOLOGISTS WHO RELEASED THOSE STUDIES.

Jesus Christ you need help. I am not at all surprised that your knowledge of women comes from the internet.

You should respect, or at least not despise, people who are not as intelligent as you (...I dread to think) because THEY CAN'T HELP IT. It's their genetic and environmental heritage. To think anything other is fascism, even if you think you are some kind of crusader with your pathetic anti Australian avatar.

people can educate themselves, so they can help it and yeah, I do have something against a nation that is eradicating a race, deny common land rights, and have racism written in to their constitution. They make apartheid South Africans look liberals, that's why you never see a non-white face n neighbours or home and away unless they're criminals. A horrible people who voted in a racist xenophobe thanks to the fascistic overtones in his speeches
 
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Sorry Beth, ban me for this rant if you need me to.

Muggins, please **** off you bell end!

Sorry UTR...I beat you too it....You only got there second, so no ban for you!!!

"GO AND BITCH AT THE WOMEN WHO WERE STUDIED AND THE PSYCHOLOGISTS WHO RELEASED THOSE STUDIES".

Don't need to actually Miggins.. I can produce far better scientific coverage than you have read in the Sun.
I can send you papers on the psychological and physical damage inflicted by rape, on both men and women.

Please read the Independent....
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...and-eating-disorders-study-finds-9687440.html

But please just go away, we have more important things to do

....like who the heck is going to play CB tomorrow, is Yun fit, will Ramsey play a youngster
 
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really? In 50 shades off grey she doesn't say 'break into my house and forcibly have sex with me' after she 'jokingly' dumps him, nor does she give him any inclination that he can, which would be consensual S & M. What happens in the book is she dumps him, so the affronted 'hero' of this erotic fiction, written by a woman for women, breaks into her house and forcibly has sex with her. That isn't what occurs in S & M where everything is consensual, that is what occurs in a rape.

The reason the poorly written crap is so popular amongst women is because, according to pretty much every psychological study into women's sexual fantasies there has ever been, rape is a womans most popular fantasy. Female psychologists and journalists have written numerous articles about it, so it isn't a myth spread by their male counterparts to excuse it. Sadly, most moronic fools like to jump on their high horses espousing a morality that doesn't fit the truth, and those some stupid people believe that a person relaying that information, information freely available to anyone with an internet connection, also subscribes to commiting those actions and are themselves guilty of being some sort of rapist. well, sorry to tell you but I'm not, though I'd bet most of you couldn't say the same, I bet most of you have had sex with a woman after she's been drinking, something I've never done, technically it's rape, as Ched Evans found out. As for my respect for women, some I respect, most I don't, it's not sexism though, peoples gender doesn't come into it, why should I respect people who lack intelligence?

After you dig me out abouth what I've written I expect you all to turn your spleens on the psychologists who carried out their studies and all the women they studied and who answered the questionaires,

I've had sex with my partner hundreds of time after she's been drinking.......................it's not rape you thick, ignorant, woman hating, sad twat.