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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Sorry PL but all that tells me is that you haven't got the first clue about rugby!
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I've watched many matches, mostly six nations and a few world cup games.... and sorry, but it looks the most mindless drivel ever. It's just pass up a line, pass down a line, charge into a group of players. Okay, so this match may have been good, but how many matches finish with scorelines that are multiples of three, with the winner being the team that gets the most penalties? It's not one or two in a decade but is a fairly common occurrence. Even if you don't understand the rules of American Football, you'd soon realise that there are a lot of tactics involved, and things such as feigns and dummies and strategy in terms of how your o-line is going to position itself in order to create an opening for the running back. Or what path your wide-recievers are going to run in order to mislead the tight ends and create some space.
 
I used to watch Rugby Union a lot, and even went to Twickers once to watch England beat Wales, but nowadays I watch occasionally and must admit some of rule changes completely baffle me and I don't think they have improved the game a lot.
 
I don't like rugby PL, but your post just shows that you are arguing about a sport you don't understand and don't like. You like NFL and understand it so see the tactics. You don't see them in rugby so dismiss it. It's ok not to like it, but not to argue the merits of the game when you clearly don't understand it.

I'd put the shovel down and walk away.
 
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fatletiss said:
I don't like rugby PL, but your post just shows that you are arguing about a sport you don't understand and don't like. You like NFL and understand it so see the tactics. You don't see them in rugby so dismiss it. It's ok not to like it, but not to argue the merits of the game when you clearly don't understand it.

I'd put the shovel down and walk away.
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What FLT said!

Every single one of those tactics you espouse in American Football is present in rugby by the way (and was probably taken by the NFL boys from rugby too).
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
What FLT said!

Every single one of those tactics you espouse in American Football is present in rugby by the way (and was probably taken by the NFL boys from rugby too).
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Every single tactic? Like throwing the ball forward? ;) I have never seen that in Rugby. I see Rugby as a different game then NFL and I enjoy both.
 
fatletiss said:
I don't like rugby PL, but your post just shows that you are arguing about a sport you don't understand and don't like. You like NFL and understand it so see the tactics. You don't see them in rugby so dismiss it. It's ok not to like it, but not to argue the merits of the game when you clearly don't understand it.

I'd put the shovel down and walk away.
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Agree 100%. And neither is rugby all about big blokes running into each other. Last night, for example, both of England's half backs were tackling forwards twice their size, which is a skill, not brute force. And England changed their tactics in the second half, offloading as they were tackled rather than going to ground. Ironically though, the try Jonathan Joseph scored at the start of the second half resembled a drive in American football, except that the 20 or so phases they went through only took about 5 minutes. In NFL we would have had about 5 lots of adverts during a play like that.

But the best thing about last night's game, of course, was that all England's 21 points were scored by players from Bath.
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Agree 100%. And neither is rugby all about big blokes running into each other. Last night, for example, both of England's half backs were tackling forwards twice their size, which is a skill, not brute force. And England changed their tactics in the second half, offloading as they were tackled rather than going to ground. Ironically though, the try Jonathan Joseph scored at the start of the second half resembled a drive in American football, except that the 20 or so phases they went through only took about 5 minutes. In NFL we would have had about 5 lots of adverts during a play like that.

But the best thing about last night's game, of course, was that all England's 21 points were scored by players from Bath.
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And our first try was scored by someone who went to my school too :) He clearly took inspiration from a sepia-tinged picture of me in the B team that was on the wall...(maybe).
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Agree 100%. And neither is rugby all about big blokes running into each other. Last night, for example, both of England's half backs were tackling forwards twice their size, which is a skill, not brute force. And England changed their tactics in the second half, offloading as they were tackled rather than going to ground. Ironically though, the try Jonathan Joseph scored at the start of the second half resembled a drive in American football, except that the 20 or so phases they went through only took about 5 minutes. In NFL we would have had about 5 lots of adverts during a play like that.

But the best thing about last night's game, of course, was that all England's 21 points were scored by players from Bath.
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Both of England's try's took a lot of skill as well. That little kick Mike Brown did for the first try took a lot of skill - much harder to do than it looks. And Joseph danced through several tackles very well. Great dummy as well when he looked as if he was going to pass it but didn't.
 
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