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this is just your opinion though. by over emphasizing this you are theoretically doing what you've said he's doing to her?
i'm glad someone's asked the questions. we cant just let them be witches and then be allowed to have no idea they've alienated more than half of their fan/customer base.
Not at all. I have provided enough circumstancial evidence and looking at the physical evidence to conclude that him saying she had security to be untrue? If you think that two midget security guards were hiding under the seat then fine.
If a bloke has to justify his actions three days later by giving it that she was ' mobbed up'then he is clearly something of a dick.
If a bloke has to justify his actions three days later by giving it that she was ' mobbed up'then he is clearly something of a dick.
he was probably trying to defend himself from people accusing him of attacking a frail little lady. and trying to communicate that he wasnt a dick/prick/fatty.
all of it's entirely circumstantial.
all of it's entirely circumstantial.
No it's not.
There is no evidence of a positive assertion that KM had security - it is not qualified by any witnesses for fatso nor the physical evidence in the tape.
The evidence of other witnesses do not support security.
The likleyhood of fatso being correct is based on conversations he would have had first hand with 'security' he does not say this.
He is a liar.
There is no evidence of a positive assertion that KM had security - it is not qualified by any witnesses for fatso nor the physical evidence in the tape.
The evidence of other witnesses do not support security.
The likleyhood of fatso being correct is based on conversations he would have had first hand with 'security' he does not say this.
He is a liar.
i actually work for one of the clubs sponsors and was thinking on the way in "would i sponsor cafc if it were up to me?". no. our good name (family club, part of the community) is now being associated with a absentee landlord and liars.
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I hope I have demonstrated that fat boy who left 50 minutes early and still found himself on the supporters train was not acting in the clubs best interest only relishing the sound of his own voice. His subsequent testimony has no credibility or supporting facts and is clearly unreliable and I think he is a liar and a prick. If as is most likely that she was not accompanied by the grenadier guards as fatso claims, then it was likely that she was travelling with business colleagues or sponsors. So potential damage to the club finances? - most likely.
Now we all know who pulls the strings, what good has come out of that particular exchange?
Pick a fight with a man next time.
Now we all know who pulls the strings, what good has come out of that particular exchange?
Pick a fight with a man next time.
She may well be.
But once again - she does not pick the team - does not recruit the players - is under a legal obligation not to disclose details of the clubs internal recruitment policy - has broken no laws- no evidence of any wrongdoing- may have been misled by Roland.
All this time slap head Murray is sitting on a wall somewhere laughing his socks off, when the club gets sold for a fraction to another mug, the closer he gets to outright ownership. He can then install those happy clapping monkeys that lick his arse over on CL. I prefer this shark to that.
But once again - she does not pick the team - does not recruit the players - is under a legal obligation not to disclose details of the clubs internal recruitment policy - has broken no laws- no evidence of any wrongdoing- may have been misled by Roland.
All this time slap head Murray is sitting on a wall somewhere laughing his socks off, when the club gets sold for a fraction to another mug, the closer he gets to outright ownership. He can then install those happy clapping monkeys that lick his arse over on CL. I prefer this shark to that.
There does seem a lot of anger, I just believe then that a Q&A/debate session should be setup, to dig for the truth, in which fans can pose questions to Katrien Meire over what happened. Everyone is accountable, and as stakeholders in the club, she should be answerable to us, the fans.
At least then, she gets to put her point across as not being a "liar" and we the people, get to be heard.
It's the only way that the club can save face and mend somewhat damaged relationships with the fans before it does hit the sales of tickets.
At least then, she gets to put her point across as not being a "liar" and we the people, get to be heard.
It's the only way that the club can save face and mend somewhat damaged relationships with the fans before it does hit the sales of tickets.
I don't believe Murray has any influence at all at Charlton any more. Hardly anyone on CL ever mentions him these days either. As Katrien says, Roland will do things his way and we have to understand this- no mention of Murray. Doesn't he have the title of non-executive director? The appointment of Riga, Peeters and now Luzon is down to Roland alone.
Then why is he hanging around - why is he attending fans forums? Why is he not being bought out? He clearly is not a 'network' type
We are not being told everything here. He did not fit it with Roland's empire I agree but he is not the court jester either.
We are not being told everything here. He did not fit it with Roland's empire I agree but he is not the court jester either.
he has a 10% stake and (interest free) loans that'll be paid back once we're in the prem. it's in his personal best interests to stay involved - so he knows when his money is coming back to him.
I haven't been inclined to post on a Charlton forum in a while, as it seemed to me that the majority of posts were being made by a vocal minority, and that those posts were mostly hyperbole, panic and misinformation.
This verbal attack on our CEO is perpetrated by one such minority. A man who went about things in an appalling manner, regardless of whether he has a point, or is right about who we should have hired as our new manager, to talk to someone in that way about anything is counter productive. Katrien Meire did admirably in the face of this and should not have been put in that situation in the first place. Saying that she is "naive" for traveling on a public train (how dare she!) is a ridiculous way of shifting blame from the man berating her, to her.
If you have a problem about what was done to Bob Peeters, and in the subsequent hiring process, I understand as I do not agree with it either. But hands up if you work in football? Hands up if you are CEO of a multi-million pound company? Where you there reading the applications? While I don't agree with the decision on the face of it, I am fully prepared to say there is no way I know all the information, or have the experience in the business of football to make as informed decision as people like Katrien Meire. We have to trust that they are trying to do what is best for the club with more information than we have available to us. This might seem like a loss now, which in the end turns out to be long term gain. Look at Portsmouth they were delighted with the money coming into their club from Russia but it has left them langouring in League 2
I think that too many people have excused his actions as they are also upset about what is happening on and off the pitch. Hopefully more clubs will engage with fans, by putting a fans representative on the board, and engaging in public forums, and press conferences, so we don't have this hyperbole, panic and misinformation. But it wont happen if people verbally abuse the CEO like we saw in that video.
This verbal attack on our CEO is perpetrated by one such minority. A man who went about things in an appalling manner, regardless of whether he has a point, or is right about who we should have hired as our new manager, to talk to someone in that way about anything is counter productive. Katrien Meire did admirably in the face of this and should not have been put in that situation in the first place. Saying that she is "naive" for traveling on a public train (how dare she!) is a ridiculous way of shifting blame from the man berating her, to her.
If you have a problem about what was done to Bob Peeters, and in the subsequent hiring process, I understand as I do not agree with it either. But hands up if you work in football? Hands up if you are CEO of a multi-million pound company? Where you there reading the applications? While I don't agree with the decision on the face of it, I am fully prepared to say there is no way I know all the information, or have the experience in the business of football to make as informed decision as people like Katrien Meire. We have to trust that they are trying to do what is best for the club with more information than we have available to us. This might seem like a loss now, which in the end turns out to be long term gain. Look at Portsmouth they were delighted with the money coming into their club from Russia but it has left them langouring in League 2
I think that too many people have excused his actions as they are also upset about what is happening on and off the pitch. Hopefully more clubs will engage with fans, by putting a fans representative on the board, and engaging in public forums, and press conferences, so we don't have this hyperbole, panic and misinformation. But it wont happen if people verbally abuse the CEO like we saw in that video.
Tricky, if you don't post, the forum fills with those who do. Better debate when more people contribute.
And without wishing to offend, I still don't see that this guy was OTT.
And without wishing to offend, I still don't see that this guy was OTT.
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Watching the video again I'd be surprised if there were two security guards there.
She still had a "meire" though.
She still had a "meire" though.
Hiring Luzon, he would not have been my choice (or anybodies really by the sound of it) but there is a chance he might be just what CAFC needs.
Ken, re posting, when the majority of the talk is about this player being not good enough, or the substitutions being made was tactically naive I leave it to the vocal minority, as I don't feel I see enough of Charlton to sit there and argue with season ticket holders. It is better to sit in silence and let people think you are a fool than speak and remove all doubt. However this is an incident I could comment on, and felt strongly enough to do so.
Ken, re posting, when the majority of the talk is about this player being not good enough, or the substitutions being made was tactically naive I leave it to the vocal minority, as I don't feel I see enough of Charlton to sit there and argue with season ticket holders. It is better to sit in silence and let people think you are a fool than speak and remove all doubt. However this is an incident I could comment on, and felt strongly enough to do so.
Tricky,
Good post in its own way, but your attitude in terms of craven deference to Meire rather sums up why other Club's fans laugh at ours. Had I seen KM on the train coming back from Watford, the day cost me £100 and was a complete waste of time and money, I would have challenged her as well. I have supported Charlton for longer than KM has been alive, she is a temporary administrator acting and lying for the hopefully temporary custodian of the Club - not a member of the Royal Family, FFS. She has lied through her carefully flossed and whitened teeth, and deserves some tough comments in return.
"Putting a fan's representative on RDs board" as you wish is a line so risible it wouldn't make the cut in a Walter Mitty movie. As KM herself said, "RD is the owner and will be doing it his way". As for RD/team critics being a 'vocal minority' as you call it, 100% wrong. I hve rarely witnessed anger like it on Saturday. I was almost proud of our fans, for once. They behaved like everyone elses.
Good post in its own way, but your attitude in terms of craven deference to Meire rather sums up why other Club's fans laugh at ours. Had I seen KM on the train coming back from Watford, the day cost me £100 and was a complete waste of time and money, I would have challenged her as well. I have supported Charlton for longer than KM has been alive, she is a temporary administrator acting and lying for the hopefully temporary custodian of the Club - not a member of the Royal Family, FFS. She has lied through her carefully flossed and whitened teeth, and deserves some tough comments in return.
"Putting a fan's representative on RDs board" as you wish is a line so risible it wouldn't make the cut in a Walter Mitty movie. As KM herself said, "RD is the owner and will be doing it his way". As for RD/team critics being a 'vocal minority' as you call it, 100% wrong. I hve rarely witnessed anger like it on Saturday. I was almost proud of our fans, for once. They behaved like everyone elses.