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Same old Historypool garbage. You'll have to change your name now plastic; Haven't you heard? "King " kenny (I know it makes me laugh too) is changing the club into an English/British one again. No more sheckshy football fer shoor. He is bringing in the carthorses.
 
Chirpy rides again said:
Same old Historypool garbage. You'll have to change your name now plastic; Haven't you heard? "King " kenny (I know it makes me laugh too) is changing the club into an English/British one again. No more sheckshy football fer shoor. He is bringing in the carthorses.
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King Kenny built our best ever footballing side with mostly homegrown players. Taking that into consideration I'd have to say your post is pure bollocks.
 
So why don't you change your name to Caaaarol? Your team is a poor one plus three or four good players. I fancy our chances against you next season. Your chances of CL football with the emergeance of Citeh are no better than last year. Although to be fair, when you did have Champions league, you gave away the previously greatest dominance of the top flight to the Mancs and there is no way back for you now. You have to bring somebody back who last managed the club 20 years ago to try and salvage some pride and you are happy with that? You Scousers are almost as bad as the Geordies.
 
<doh>
Raaaul said:
Care to elaborate on that laugh? It's a factual statement.



Errr, what?
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Have you not heard of Bob paisley? he was your clubs most successful manager and the side he built (the one that won 3 European Cups) would blow Dalglish's side away, (I meant the good one from 20 years ago not today's bunch). Plastic fantastic. <doh>
 
Chirpy rides again said:
So why don't you change your name to Caaaarol? Your team is a poor one plus three or four good players. I fancy our chances against you next season. Your chances of CL football with the emergeance of Citeh are no better than last year. Although to be fair, when you did have Champions league, you gave away the previously greatest dominance of the top flight to the Mancs and there is no way back for you now. You have to bring somebody back who last managed the club 20 years ago to try and salvage some pride and you are happy with that? You Scousers are almost as bad as the Geordies.
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I didn't bring anyone back, the board did. He was brought back to ensure we could finish the season with a competent manager, he wasn't intended to be a permanent appointment. FSG were clearly looking for someone younger to manage us, but Kenny excelled and was rightfully given the job on a permanent basis. Are you really telling me he didn't deserve the job full time after the work he had done since being appointed in January?
 
Chirpy rides again said:
<doh>

Have you not heard of Bob paisley? he was your clubs most successful manager and the side he built (the one that won 3 European Cups) would blow Dalglish's side away, (I meant the good one from 20 years ago not today's bunch). Plastic fantastic. <doh>
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I said best footballing side, not most succesful side. Go ask Liverpool fans which was the most exciting Liverpool side ever, 90% (atleast) would say the 87-88 side with Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge, McMahon, Houghton etc.
 
Raaaul said:
I didn't bring anyone back, the board did. He was brought back to ensure we could finish the season with a competent manager, he wasn't intended to be a permanent appointment. FSG were clearly looking for someone younger to manage us, but Kenny excelled and was rightfully given the job on a permanent basis. Are you really telling me he didn't deserve the job full time after the work he had done since being appointed in January?
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If you want to look backward yes.To be honest, your improvement was backed by a lot of cash and came from a very low starting point. You cannot realistically think that you will crash the top 4 party this year? Last year your side had nothing to lose; they were coming from a very low point. The shocking behaviour of some of your players under Uncle Woy was stopped and you did ok: it gained it's own momentum. Whether it can be maintained over the season has yet to be seen. What happens if Kenny cannot maintain this form? will you drop the "King" soubriquet before you drop him?

Past heroes, almost without exception should remain just that.
 
Raaaul said:
I said best footballing side, not most succesful side. Go ask Liverpool fans which was the most exciting Liverpool side ever, 90% (atleast) would say the 87-88 side with Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge, McMahon, Houghton etc.
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That's because people remember more recent sides more easily. Better than Souness, Hansen, Dalglish, Kennedy and McDermott? Can't see it.
 
Chirpy rides again said:
If you want to look backward yes.To be honest, your improvement was backed by a lot of cash and came from a very low starting point. You cannot realistically think that you will crash the top 4 party this year? Last year your side had nothing to lose; they were coming from a very low point. The shocking behaviour of some of your players under Uncle Woy was stopped and you did ok: it gained it's own momentum. Whether it can be maintained over the season has yet to be seen. What happens if Kenny cannot maintain this form? will you drop the "King" soubriquet before you drop him?

Past heroes, almost without exception should remain just that.
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I think we have a great chance, and I believe we will break into the top 4 this year, especially as Arsenal are losing 2 or 3 key first team players and won't replace them with players who have the same amount of experience as the players they're selling. I'm not buying that about our players at all, it's like saying the players were to blame for Juande Ramos failing in the Spurs job. We sold one player for £50m and signed Suarez for £22m. We also signed Carroll for £35m but he hardly featured, Man City win aside.

If Kenny can't maintain the form his job will be reviewed, the same happened to Hoddle.
 
Chirpy rides again said:
That's because people remember more recent sides more easily. Better than Souness, Hansen, Dalglish, Kennedy and McDermott? Can't see it.
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I don't mean as in more effective, I mean as in more pleasing on the eye. Like you'd say today's Arsenal side is a better footballing side than George Graham's Arsenal.
 
The best footballing side is generally the one which wins the hardest to win trophies as opposed to the one which is easy on the eye and wins little to nothing

However the Bob Paisley side would fall into being a winning one and easy on the eye

Of course, there are teams that are always easy on the eye and teams that are only easy on the eye against weak opposition, like the current Arsenal side
 
Raaaul said:
I think we have a great chance, and I believe we will break into the top 4 this year, especially as Arsenal are losing 2 or 3 key first team players and won't replace them with players who have the same amount of experience as the players they're selling. I'm not buying that about our players at all, it's like saying the players were to blame for Juande Ramos failing in the Spurs job. We sold one player for £50m and signed Suarez for £22m. We also signed Carroll for £35m but he hardly featured, Man City win aside.


If Kenny can't maintain the form his job will be reviewed, the same happened to Hoddle.
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You may have a fantastic player in Suarez (I've seen him at Ajax) but are players like Aquilani and Poulsen really going to cut it..? I doubt it.
 
Liverpool's 'homegrown' team under Kenny Dalglish won the double in '85/86.

How many of the starting XI that won the FA Cup final played international football for England?
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Liverpool's 'homegrown' team under Kenny Dalglish won the double in '85/86.

How many of the starting XI that won the FA Cup final played international football for England?
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I wasn't referring to the 85/86 team, was I?

I was referring to the team of 87/88 that is considered, by the majority of our older fan base, the best footballing side we've had in our history. Every player played for a British (or Irish) international side bar Bruce Grobbelaar and Molby. Molby only played 7 league games that season so his influence was marginal at best on that particular team.
 
Craig Johnston didn't and your interpretation of homegrown is a little generous, too.

I think that you'll find that there were rather a lot of British and Irish players in the league at that time anyway, as the whole country was suffering from a ban from European competitions.
Can't think why, off the top off my head.
Any ideas?
 
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