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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Sad thing is, he'd improve us!
     
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  2. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    AC milan are really angry with chelsea for sending him there <laugh>
     
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  3. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    A Mexican goalkeeper eh..........there's been loads of successful South American keepers over here like......

    Oh......

    Is Fergie on your transfer committee?
     
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  4. You've already said that one this month :p
     
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  5. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Why how many dodgy keepers have you been linked with?

    Or did you mean Fergie?
     
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  6. Same keeper I think. Last time it resulted in a south american keeper listing lol
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I didn't see it first time round but it is quite good... 5 stars for the Ferguson transfer committee wheeze...
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    So apparently Rodgers and the transfer committee are having a sit down meeting to discuss how we ****ed up so badly in the transfer market.

    Expect a couple of heads to roll?
     
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  9. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Who's idea was it to buy that useless ****?

    It wasn't me, it was him

    **** off, it was that twat

    Behave I said he was bobbins
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Then repeat conversation for the next 6 summer signings <whistle>
     
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  11. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    We've sign 19 players in the last 3 transfer windows. The only one who has had an established first team position is Mignolet, who's been poor.

    A few look good but are being ignored. Last season was just a reshuffle of the team from the end of Rodgers first season, and now we've lost Suarez and Sturidge is injured, its an odd unbalanced reshuffle of that team.

    If a team signed 19 players since that time you would expect the team look to quite different and be stronger.

    Our transfer dealings have been a mess.

    Rodgers is still riding on the Coutinho and Sturridge signers. They formed a trio with Suarez that carried our team. But now that trio is broken.
     
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  12. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    #patentlyfuckingobvious
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I've already told you. At least two <doh>
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    SO........

    RHC..

    the transfer committee is reputedly:

    1. Brendan Rodgers (manager)

    2. Ian Ayre (chief executive)

    3. Dave Fallows (head of recruitment)

    4. Michael Edwards (head of performance analysis)

    If at least 2 heads are going to roll you'd wonder.

    Fallows has simply got to go with a title like this... head of recruitment? this job is a jumped up lead scout. the guy should be reporting to a technical director who oversees the overall structure and being head of recruitment should mean managing the scouts not having final say on players.

    what about Edwards? What exactly is performance analysis... does he make up videos or what? i dunno....

    Ayre seems to get very bad press from all and sundry but most importantly if he is out vetoing moves or picking players thats plain wrong.

    Rodgers seems to want to pass the buck totally but he is part of this structure...
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I've found this rather fun piece for you lot to read

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...sfer-committee-has-been-a-spectacular-failure

    "Edwards is the committee's other main protagonist. A former video analyst whom Damien Comolli brought with him from Tottenham Hotspur, Edwards gained the trust of Liverpool's principal owner, John W. Henry, by presenting a statistical model for analysing potential signings.

    Famously enamoured with Billy Beane's sabermetric approach to hiring baseball players, Henry believed that in the young Englishman he had a football equivalent.

    Edwards was invited to spend time with Henry at the businessman's Florida mansion. His guidance was taken seriously when Henry and the rest of Fenway Sports Group sought a replacement for former Reds manager Roy Hodgson.

    Aware that numbers mattered to FSG's vision for the club, Edwards appointed Ian Graham as Liverpool's director of research. Holder of a PhD in theoretical physics, Graham had developed a computer programme designed to add discriminative value to player performance statistics provided by companies such as ProZone.

    When Rodgers, a scout or an agent suggested Liverpool sign a particular player, Edwards would have the player's numbers run through the Graham model. If the computer said no, the deal was off.

    When Red Bull Salzburg were looking for a buyer for Sadio Mane in the summer, Liverpool were one of the clubs approached. Graham's analysis indicated the Senegal international wasn't good enough, so Mane ended up at Southampton instead (paid for with a fraction of the money Rodgers channelled to the South Coast club for Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren and Lambert).

    Mane's new club currently sit fifth in the league table, five points ahead of Liverpool.

    Edwards' backing of a "moneyball" approach and Rodgers' limited knowledge of non-Premier League players has led to several standoffs.

    Oussama Assaidi and Nuri Sahin were Edwards' men whom Rodgers assented to signing then hardly used in their preferred positions.

    After seven league appearances in five months, Sahin's loan was terminated. The Turkey international ended the 2012-13 season playing a Champions League final for Borussia Dortmund.

    Assaidi, recently identified by Raheem Sterling as his most skilful team-mate, per Sky Sports, was permitted a total of 83 minutes in the league before being loaned to Stoke City for the last two seasons.

    In their first summer working together, Edwards pushed for Fiorentina centre-back Matija Nastasic to be recruited. Rodgers wanted a player with Premier League experience, but during the standoff, Manchester City bought the Serb instead.

    Nastasic was named Manchester City's Young Player of the Year during his first season in England, while Liverpool still hasn't found a reliable central defender.

    For another Premier League manager whose club also utilised the Graham model, part of that comes as no surprise.

    "That guy was a serious nerd," he says. "And the program was ridiculous. The parameters were set from his own view of what a defender, midfielder or attacker should do. They were ludicrous and inaccurate."

    For two Anfield years, Luis Suarez's unalloyed excellence compensated for a multitude of recruitment and coaching sins. Yet between Edwards' faith in analytics and Rodgers' poor eye for a player, Liverpool have managed to blow well in excess of £250,000,000 pounds once payoffs and agents' fee are factored in.

    Even the committee's conspicuous success, Daniel Sturridge, was recommended by an unconvinced Rodgers to only be brought in on loan.

    If you were the man who paid this pair to run your football club, you'd be forgiven for wondering if you might not be better off replacing both of them."

    how nice....
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Written by Duncan Castles - who is a well known bullsh*tter.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I saw that at the bottom which is why i looked at the so called amazing talent missed and chuckeld but still... the names and positions are right so pick who you like out of the 3/4 named.

    I do feel rodgers hasn't a clue in europe/ abroad so what LFC need is actual eyes on players to judge properly not a computer program.
     
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  19. How reliable is this? There aren't too many quotes in there.

    If true, isn't the point of Moneyball to be successful on a smaller budget...? Just my opinion like but £250m isn't what I'd call a small budget. And yes, I am talking gross spend!
     
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  20. Thank you (see above question <laugh>)
     
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