Bring back Boruc!
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Fraser could learn a lot about defending shots at the near post, just watch Kelvin a few times!
I think it's fair enough to question whether Fraser should have come/be better at commanding crosses into the box. Castigating him though, no. He has a lot of quality, and a lot of things he can still improve on. Like..........all of our outfield players, and pretty much all the players in the world. Give him time, coaching etc, he'll improve and he has the base to become a world class keeper.
We could see from the Arsenal game how good he can be and his distribution is better than Boruc.
He's a young, upcoming keeper in a new team and a new league. The goals last night weren't his fault. Could he have dealt with the second one slightly better? Yes. But should wanyama have tracked Van Persie? Yes. It was more the defences fault than Forster's.
You're coming across like a complete idiot. Stop bashing one of our players and get behind the team. He is young and will improve. Stop moaning and enjoy the good times.
I don`t think that`s true Laura - they get critisism when it is due. Since Niemi, they have all (Davis, Biakowski, Gazza, Forster) had a fair crack of the whip, and been praised when it`s due, and given the benefit of the doubt, at the outset. Personally, I`ve never seen Forster as being better than Boruc, and certainly not so much fun.
He's not particularly young. He's 26. And he could have dealt with the second one a lot better, not slightly. It was the keeper's ball moments after Rooney kicked it. That goal was partly his fault, partly the man who was supposed to mark Van Persie. But more Forster's fault because the ball should never have got to Van Persie. And I can see him making more errors TBH. His judgement is shot at the moment. I obviously hope he doesn't but I can see it happening. I expect better from a keeper who cost £10million and has played in the Champions League.
26 is young for a keeper in the Premier League. And if you watched the replays of Rooney's free kick it bent sharply towards Forster late in its flight. So to say it was Forster's from the outset simply isn't realistic. Yes, he should have probably have come for it, no one is arguing against that, but to say his judgment is shot is to ignore the brilliant display he put on in the last game. I could forgive him for last night's error because of the flight of the ball putting a doubt in his mind. I'm sorry, but FLT is right, you can't expect perfection in a keeper, and there is a lot more good than bad in Forster, and he will get better.
until recently that ws young for a keeper. I do wonder how late in a keeper's career you can train bad habits out (or good ones in) though.
not prodigiously young like bosnich and robinson. but still young.
Positioning is much easier to train keepers then most things. If Forster had weak wrists or was a crap shot stopper I would worry. I couldn't blame him for the first goal. The second, yeah he is at fault but he isn't the only one.
the only worry i have in terms of physical capability is that he's often beaten more easily low to either side than top end keepers at this level.
not with us yet, but it was a noted problem at celtic, iirc.
as already mentioned, he's had not much to do until our bad run started.
He is a muscley guy, probably too muscley which makes it hard to react to low shots. Wanyama was the same when he joined us, now he has slimed down just a bit he can move better. Which is why we see him play like he is now.
My problem with the mistakes he is making is that they suggest fundamental flaws in his game. I'd much rather see a keeper coming off his line and completely missing one than staying pinned to their line.
We probably have the best goalkeeping coach in the Premier, I am sure everyone is working on the problems.
