The Wenger Criticism Thread

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I think it's your wum laced comments that do it

I wouldn't ever really say i was a WUM.
I have a slightly contentious opinion when it comes to Arsenal that is laced with facts, but ultimately is my own opinion, and some Arsenal fans, because it is a negative opinion of their manager, seem to think I am trying to wind some of you up.
I promise I am not, I dont really go out of my way to wind any one up.

But as the opinion I hold is a negative one, I can certainly understand why Arsenal fans would be pissed off by it. Which is why I dont mind the comments I get on here.
But it is an actual opinion I hold that Arsenal really need him gone if they wish to challenge properly going forward. The club is better placed than perhaps anyone else, to exert dominance on this league, and their continual failure to do so baffles me to no end.

I know a section of your supporters agree with me too, chielfy Cini and 87. You might say my opinion is less valid because I am a Chelsea fan, fair point, but I am also a fan of English football in general.
 
I wouldn't ever really say i was a WUM.
I have a slightly contentious opinion when it comes to Arsenal that is laced with facts, but ultimately is my own opinion, and some Arsenal fans, because it is a negative opinion of their manager, seem to think I am trying to wind some of you up.
I promise I am not, I dont really go out of my way to wind any one up.

But as the opinion I hold is a negative one, I can certainly understand why Arsenal fans would be pissed off by it. Which is why I dont mind the comments I get on here.
But it is an actual opinion I hold that Arsenal really need him gone if they wish to challenge properly going forward. The club is better placed than perhaps anyone else, to exert dominance on this league, and their continual failure to do so baffles me to no end.

I know a section of your supporters agree with me too, chielfy Cini and 87. You might say my opinion is less valid because I am a Chelsea fan, fair point, but I am also a fan of English football in general.

You've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence. For clarification, it's your opinion not fact. I don't think your (or anybody's) opinion is less valid, but you have to remember it is just opinion. The same way that it's my opinion that Chelsea have bought their success and would still be a Yo-Yo club without Romans Rubles.

As for Wenger, he will be gone in the next couple of years anyway, so the club should be preparing for his replacement. I'm not and have never been against change, some people (intentionally?) misinterpret highlighting what Wenger does well for total compliant support. That's not the case, the point I'm making is that when it does come to making a change Arsenal need to get it right and not make a change for the sake of change.
 
You've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence. For clarification, it's your opinion not fact. I don't think your (or anybody's) opinion is less valid, but you have to remember it is just opinion. The same way that it's my opinion that Chelsea have bought their success and would still be a Yo-Yo club without Romans Rubles.

As for Wenger, he will be gone in the next couple of years anyway, so the club should be preparing for his replacement. I'm not and have never been against change, some people (intentionally?) misinterpret highlighting what Wenger does well for total compliant support. That's not the case, the point I'm making is that when it does come to making a change Arsenal need to get it right and not make a change for the sake of change.

I will not hold my breath on that.... Why would he not want to carry on? This will be probably be his last job. Whenever he decides to leave, his early successes (on the pitch) would have been a distant memory and I suppose the new guy would not be weighed down by that. Fergie was unique, and anyone coming after him would struggle.
 
You've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence. For clarification, it's your opinion not fact. I don't think your (or anybody's) opinion is less valid, but you have to remember it is just opinion. The same way that it's my opinion that Chelsea have bought their success and would still be a Yo-Yo club without Romans Rubles.

As for Wenger, he will be gone in the next couple of years anyway, so the club should be preparing for his replacement. I'm not and have never been against change, some people (intentionally?) misinterpret highlighting what Wenger does well for total compliant support. That's not the case, the point I'm making is that when it does come to making a change Arsenal need to get it right and not make a change for the sake of change.

Not at all.
People form their opinions using facts, unless they are ******ed.
My opinions are laced with facts, and my statements are my take on said facts.
 
I wouldn't ever really say i was a WUM.
I have a slightly contentious opinion when it comes to Arsenal that is laced with facts, but ultimately is my own opinion, and some Arsenal fans, because it is a negative opinion of their manager, seem to think I am trying to wind some of you up.
I promise I am not, I dont really go out of my way to wind any one up.

But as the opinion I hold is a negative one, I can certainly understand why Arsenal fans would be pissed off by it. Which is why I dont mind the comments I get on here.
But it is an actual opinion I hold that Arsenal really need him gone if they wish to challenge properly going forward. The club is better placed than perhaps anyone else, to exert dominance on this league, and their continual failure to do so baffles me to no end.

I know a section of your supporters agree with me too, chielfy Cini and 87. You might say my opinion is less valid because I am a Chelsea fan, fair point, but I am also a fan of English football in general.

In 'my opinion' you can't be a fan of English football if you support Chelsea. That is the biggest contradiction right there. Money yes... football no. ;)
 
In 'my opinion' you can't be a fan of English football if you support Chelsea. That is the biggest contradiction right there. Money yes... football no. ;)

Not sure if you are aware, but Chelsea existed for 99 years before Roman came along.
Are you saying I should have changed my allegiance to another club when Roman bought us? Is that what you would do?
If a rich billionaire bought Arsenal would you start supporting Spurs?
Plastic......
 
Not sure if you are aware, but Chelsea existed for 99 years before Roman came along.
Are you saying I should have changed my allegiance to another club when Roman bought us? Is that what you would do?
If a rich billionaire bought Arsenal would you start supporting Spurs?
Plastic......

Existed is the key word here. Congrats! I couldn't have put it better myself ;)
 
Existed is the key word here. Congrats! I couldn't have put it better myself ;)

Nice dodge.
You like the ol' dodge and deflect tactic don't you.
When you have no real answer to your smart ass rhetoric.
Answer the question, you are saying that every real chelsea fan should have downed tools and stopped supporting Chelsea when Roman bought the club?
So, would you do the same if you are purchased by a billionaire? Which team would you defect to?
 
But to answer the question if I billionaire came along and started spending cash we didn't earn I'd be very concerned as I'm sure other Gooners would. In the current financial state of the club and the way we have developed this scenario is unlikely at best.

The only time I'd stop supporting Arsenal is if the club promoted racism like say.... making the said racist club Captain :)
 
But to answer the question if I billionaire came along and started spending cash we didn't earn I'd be very concerned as I'm sure other Gooners would. In the current financial state of the club and the way we have developed this scenario is unlikely at best.

The only time I'd stop supporting Arsenal is if the club promoted racism like say.... making the said racist club Captain :)

Again, I would pose the question....
If a player came through your youth academy and was one of the best defenders your club had seen in 20 years, and was Arsenal through and through and captained your side to their first league victory in 50 years, would you be calling for him to be outright sacked if someone accused him of making a racist comment?
Would you call for his head, and stop supporting the club because they kept him on as captain?

I think you talk utter **** mate

Should add, again, he wasn't made captain after the racist comment, he had been our captain for 8 years prior.
 
Eh?

Are you talking about JT? I was just putting a scenario out there. I forgot all about the JT incident. But yeah I guess he is a good example of what I was describing. :)
 
Eh?

Are you talking about JT? I was just putting a scenario out there. I forgot all about the JT incident. But yeah I guess he is a good example of what I was describing. :)

You Cheeky fecking clown <laugh>

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Not at all.
People form their opinions using facts, unless they are ******ed.
My opinions are laced with facts, and my statements are my take on said facts.

Your opinion that Wenger should go is your opinion, not fact.
 
Not sure if you are aware, but Chelsea existed for 99 years before Roman came along.
Are you saying I should have changed my allegiance to another club when Roman bought us? Is that what you would do?
If a rich billionaire bought Arsenal would you start supporting Spurs?
Plastic......

Arsenal are owned by two billionaires :)