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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Style, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

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    If the chavs keep up that pace they will wrap up the title a long time before May. Reminds me of some of the United teams of the 90s (with cantona, kanchelskis, Hughes) when teams will just be brushed aside. Although Chelsea are nowhere that exciting to watch.

    But there is still hope for the others. I remember a few seasons back when they were about 10 points ahead of United in November but faltered very badly after December. Somehow I can't see that happening under Mourinho.
     
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  2. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen his last two goals?!

    Oscar is quality.
     
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  3. Stan

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    Chelsea will win it easily. I don't think they're that great a team and they'll be found out in Europe but they have no competition in the PL. City look like a team that needs refreshing and I think the manager is too nice to have that ruthless, cutting edge required, he got lucky last season as similarly there were no credible challengers. Arsenal still aren't there, Liverpool are bang average without Suarez and United are at the start of a three season process. It wouldn't surprise me if Saints stay the course as the closest, albeit far away, challenger.
     
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  4. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    Barca just lost, Real Madrid top the league
     
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  5. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

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    Barca were miles ahead of Madrid before the rat joined them. Now they've lost two in a row.

    #overrated
     
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  6. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Liverpool were 2nd before the Suarez left. Now look at them.
     
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  7. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    <laugh>
    Most ******ed statement ever!

    The guy takes stubbornness to whole new levels. He doesn't sign the players his squad desperately needs, he cannot make a tactical substitution to save his life and he had one tactic for 90% of games.
    He is great at spotting and nurturing talented youths, but is hopeless at thinking on his feet and changing the outcome of games with a tactical change or substitution, he plays players in the wrong positions, completely dulling their effectiveness and he also thinks that a team challenging for the title can make do with Olivier Giroud as their main striker <laugh>

    Everytime they play any team that is either a) Better than them personnel wise or b) Has a manager with a brain, they come unstuck.
    Can look like world beaters against relegation fodder, but against anyone decent.....
    Look at their record in Europe for Christs' sake!! How many times do they scrape through their group only to get knocked out by the first decent team they play?

    And don't even get me started on the way he trains his players! Almost kills them, runs them into the ground so when it comes to match day, the slightest knock and they are laid up for 3 months.
    Their injury record is atrocious.
     
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  8. Stan

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    He may not currently be the greatest manager around but he's far from clueless and to suggest he is identifies you as a clueless Johnny come lately moronic spoilt Chelsea twat.

    The man won league titles (doubles) when no other team challenged United and he did it on a vastly inferior budget. I suspect that was before your time.

    Over the past ten years he has understandably frustrated the hell out of the Arsenal fans but has always delivered CL football, which isn't as piss easy as some think. Look at United last season and Liverpool this season.

    In conclusion, to call him clueless is complete bollocks.
     
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  9. Stan

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    I'll add that your comment about his training methods simply magnifies how much you're talking out of your hole. He doesn't overwork the players at all. If anything they don't train enough when it comes to the physical aspects of the game, they train like sprinters. His preference is for "athletes"; lean, mean, hamstring rupturing machines.
     
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  10. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    They were 7th and 8th the previous two seasons with him in the team.

    One great season does not a world class player make.
     
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  11. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Two great finishes = quality footballer? If that is the barometer of quality footballers then that defines overrated perfectly for me. At my age I've seen plenty of class finishes from all sorts of footballers.

    In terms of his overall game he's a lightweight. This isn't a dig at Chelsea, quite the opposite. The team is full of quality footballers and as a result, now more than ever, Oscar looks a couple of steps below most of them.

    It leads to a greater point in that generally, Brazilian midfielders that have played or continue to play in the prem aren't all that.
     
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  12. Sweats

    Sweats Sure Forum Moderator

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    I think IF wenger had the budget to piss money up the wall he'd have won a shed load more. I've always admired the way he approaches football. I just genuinely believe he has had his hands tied.
     
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  13. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Now he has a bit of money to spend he is going about it the right way, one top class player in needed positions each transfer window and integrating them into the team. I would not be surprised to see Arsenal as the team to beat in the the next 2/3 seasons.
     
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  14. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    Top class players yes, in the right positions, hell no. They need leaders and world class holding mid and striker. Whilst he keep spending the money on midget mids the rest of us will be fine.
     
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  15. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Jose Mourinho slams Stamford Bridge atmosphere: 'It's like playing in an empty stadium'

    Still a small club like ££££
     
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  16. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Oh piss off you sanctimonious twat.
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Yes he won a couple league titles years ago, but English football has changed drastically in the last ten years.
    Its far more tactical than it used to be. How many formation were played back in the 90's for example? Everyone played 4-4-2, except once in a bluemoon when you would get a 4-5-1, thats it....
    Now there are all kinds of weird and wonderful formations and tactics....

    Football moved into the 21st century, Wenger didn't.

    Johnny come lately? <laugh> A Man Utd fan calling me that is hilarious.
     
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  17. Stan

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    Have you ever been to Stamford Bridge? **** stadium, terrible atmosphere. Whenever I've been the majority of the noise is made by the away fans. Bear in mind Chelsea are actually a 15-20,000 fan club so over half the stadium is populated by people who would have no interest in following Chelsea if they were floating around in the bottom half of the table.
     
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  18. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    wow you guys are releasing the claws lately,
    wonder what crawled up your butts.

    Come on ladies, calm down. We didn't even beat you last week
     
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  19. Stan

    Stan Stalker

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    Very few managers would have kept Arsenal in the CL places over the past ten years. Football isn't just about oligarchs chucking money around and buying success. I appreciate that's a concept completely alien to ignorant Sky Sports football fans. Go back to baiting Everton fans for being beaten by the French police, you're much better at that.
     
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  20. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    You're actually pathetic, really really pathetic.

    Ok, Wenger was a decent manager, and he has made good squads. My point is the landscape has changed and through, I dont know, stubborness or incompetence he won't change with it.
    I don't think he focuses enough on the opposition, complete tunnel vision, that if he does this or that with his team, their mental strength and valour will see them through.

    Shteve just stop embaressing yourself with the ogliarch crap aswell bud, seriously.
    I remember watching Chelsea with Ian Porterfield in charge, and Glenn Hoddle, one of the first games I saw in fact, home to Nottingham Forest, we got completely owned, lost 0-2 but should have been much more.

    You have no idea how old I am (31), how long I have been supporting Chelsea (since 94), and obviously no clue about Arsenal. Half my family are Arsenal fans and I have seen them live almost as many times as I have seen Chelsea.

    And the Everton thing......complete mistake on my point, and I apologised, and both the Everton fans on here accepted it and we moved on.
    I think you should go back to being No One Famous....
     
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