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What are our #realproblems !

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Sep 30, 2014.

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What are our problems ?

Poll closed Jul 27, 2015.
  1. Our new recruits are yet to gel?

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  2. Balotelli do not fit into our system?

    8 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. We miss Daniel Sturridge?

    13 vote(s)
    54.2%
  4. Brendan Rodgers is confused ?

    13 vote(s)
    54.2%
  5. I have no idea?

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
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  1. Livtor

    Livtor Active Member

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    Neville ain't a gk (to understand splitsecond dynamics).
    Migs ain't bad (When was his last blooper or costly flap?)
    Valdes ain't Reina 1.0 (more like Reina 2.0)

    But enough with goalkeeping! That is the department that worries me the least.
     
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  2. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    when was the last time we had a clean sheet? strange comment.
     
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  3. Livtor

    Livtor Active Member

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    Mig is just one member of our defence. Strange assumption.
     
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  4. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    so you know it was a month ago the last time we had a clean sheet then lol.

    just found your comment about goalie is the least of your worries stupid, you want to blame the defence fair enough, but its the goalies job to keep clean sheets and we have 2 crap ones.

    a great goalie inspires the defence, where is that from migs?
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It's a bit too simplistic to say he doesn't understand the dynamics because he's not a keeper. What he said made sense and as in every area of life, sometimes it takes someone not connected to a particular job [in this case] to look at it with layman's eyes or from a fresh perspective, to give insight.

    We have twin problems of equal concern and they're the two opposite ends of the pitch.
     
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  6. Livtor

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    The goalie may be phenomenal, but without a good stable defence ahead of him, forget those dreams of successive clean sheets fluttering in the winds of "inspiration". Bar Chelsea's, no goalkeeper has been acceptable thick season by your standards, yet we know that de gea and Lloris are top gks. Hart... can go **** himself, the twat.
     
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  7. Garlic Klopp

    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    I think our real problem is we are rubbish. Poor in defence, weak in midfield and a joke in attack. Other than that I think we will go far and a top four place is a cert........not!
     
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  8. Redbrynner

    Redbrynner Well-Known Member

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    Should have kept Reina
    Should have kept Agger
    BR discovered a winning formula and then ripped the heart out
    Players are getting played on price tage and past reputation and not on form
    formation is wrong
    All the changes mean we are not aunit and no team spirit
    Defence is useless
    Midfield is ineffective
    No goal threat
    No effort
    No momentum
    Nobody cares
    No chance

    ....And it hurts all the more because we were so good and exciting to watch
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Really? He sold Suarez, can't blame him for that. Other than that.. he's not sold any 1st team regular. Selling Reina can hardly be called ripping the heart out given he never played.
     
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  10. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    As I said all summer long... we're signing too many players and not enough quality players.

    #QuantityOverQuality

    4 real top quality players. A centre back, a full back, a holding midfielder, and a top quality striker. That's what we needed. Screw trying to win the Champions League- rebuild squad depth slowly but focus on quality. I don't care if we throw the Champions League and focus on the league.

    Unfortunately, we went for quantity we're doing crap in both tournaments.

    I have faith that Rodgers will make this system work, he is a great tactician and coach. What he's not good at is transfers... it will take him a little while to figure out the best way to use the current set of misfits and then we'll climb the table again.
     
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  11. Redbrynner

    Redbrynner Well-Known Member

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    He may not have sold them but he has brought too many new players into the first team too quickly and this has upset the balance.
    Nobody knows their role, nobody knows their importance. All looks a bit of a mess.

    The way to sure up a defence is not add three players who have not played together into the first team.

    Also sick of seeing Lambert get opportunities every single game....and slowing us down further, players who have worked their way up through the squad and are much more talented have to sit and rot.

    Getting rid of Agger was ripping th heart out of our club. A player who was our vice captain and wouldnt even leave when Barca came calling. All you have to see is the number of tattoos on our players to see his impact in the dressing room and to make things worse he is one of the best ball playing CBs going.

    Sick of it all, beginning to think that BR fluked last season based on morale and buys that started when Kenny was at the club.

    Might just be a bit pissed off.
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Trains were messed up on way home today

    #realproblems.
     
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  13. Rubbersoul

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    Only saw the last 20-30 mins of the second half. The way I'd describe it is that all our players, every one of them, looks like they're stranded some place all of the time. Maybe on sandbanks and they have to wade through water with the ball or try and kick it over it to get it to another player. It's still early days in all comps but the longer we keep saying that the more time runs out. Plenty of #realproblems outlined above, now they need #realsolutions... it's turning into a big season for Rodgers this.
     
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  15. Livtor

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    But the bit in bold is the worrying motherproblem. Which makes one ask oneself: to what extent was BR winging it on the wings of Suarez last season. Because an Author rarely abandons his philosophies so casually.
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    I think some underestimated the impact Suarez had on the team - didn't just provide goals and assists, but energy which was infectious, leadership at the top end (Sterling and Sturridge would look up to him), and his creativity.

    But selling him was inevitable. There's nothing we can do about that and we have to move on.

    My gripe is how we went about trying to replace him - our strategy was so scattergun, it's unreal. Remy, Bony, Balotelli, Lambert etc etc. Different types of players.

    Rodgers persists with Skrtel and he wanted Lovren - that's his centre back pairing and he was willing to sell Agger and continuously drop Sakho. That's his choice and he will live with the reward/consequences.

    Overall - I don't think our window was all that bad. We addrressed key positions - but the impact of losing Sturridge and Allen meant that we had to change our shape and style. Once we get these players back, I think we will improve massively.

    But it's concerning how a couple of injuries could completely change the ethos of the team.
     
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  17. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    This.

    He WAS Liverpool 2013-2014 looking back. He was the hub, he created, he made everyone better. He made Rodgers better too. BUT was selling him inevitable? Could he have been made to stay another season? Worse his departure seemed to have diminished everyone. The manager isn't that good anymore and cannot think straight. The defence is looking very unreliable with Sakho dropped (does anyone know why), the midfield with Gerrard as lynchpin is looking slow and ponderous and the attack with lazy and selfish Ballotelli is just plain powder puff at the moment. Buying lambert now looks like an act of self indulgence on Rodger's part.

    I fear we could go on a downward spiral. The WBA game at home will be key. Win we could arrest the slide and the bad vibes. Lose points, the confidence will keep ebbing away and there will more talk about Rodgers ability, his buys, Gerrard's legs and Ballotelli's selfishness.
     
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  18. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i had a look at octobers fixtures last night, and was thinking at the time we need to go on some sort of run and find form quickish, as on paper october fixtures look ok, and we would need some form going into november as there is a few tough ones(although every game at the moment is though, but you know what i mean lol) started off with a poor display last night, not a great start, hope its a better finish.
     
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  19. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Suarez's importance was recognised as massive. But no one realised how massive. Whatever people thought it was, it needs to be multiplied by 10 to get its true value. The word irreplaceable is used very often but he truly was for this team. Just like the Mancs fell apart when Ferguson left, Liverpool is suferring from the post Suarez effect. It is now obvious that Suarez made life easy for Rodgers. He masked many problems. The obvious ones were in defence. We were leaking goals but we would also win because we were scoring more than we were conceding.

    Rodgers now has a multitude of problems and issues to address. Fingers crossed he'll find the right answers.
     
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  20. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

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    It's not the loss of Suarez.

    Last seasons team would have swiped aside most that we've played this season without him.

    We have the same defensive frailties as last year, regardless of personnel. Add to that the aging of Gerrard and the severe lack of movement or cohesion in midfield and attack and we really have little to no chance of scoring. Balotelli looks like a mistake of epic proportions. Sure Injuries haven't helped before the new lads got settled but they are multi-million ££ professionals aren't they?

    In short, BR's system is flawed, it always has been. Add to that the seemingly lightweight signings (you don't get much for £110m these days) and the loss of shape in the middle (or is that muddle?) and up front and we are top four no-hopers.

    Suarez was a loss, yes. But we had a huge budget. Massive. He could have been much more effectively replaced. We bought Balotelli <yikes>
     
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