Sunderland AFC Vs Stoke City: Official Sunderland Not606 Match Thread

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Gustavo's Gonads said:
I think this is a very important game, we need to remeber how to win against PL opposition, it's a tough, close game but I fancy we will shade it.

Have to say I'll be surprised if there's more than 25k, and as RAW says many of the stay aways will have been those whinging about not getting to Wembley.

That said, I will openly admit I'm unable to attend tonight as I'm in the middle of recruitment, and will be interviewing, last one is 7pm, so will be close to 8 when I'm done....

I will take any insults or flak you wanna chuck, then ignore it, and get on with my day ;)
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Harsh, the only people who missed out on tickets to Wembley were non season card holders.

I'm still quite bitter about going to every game but the Man U away and the final missing out on both because I wasn't a season card holder. I felt s**t on by the club, especially as there was excess tickets that never went to general sale.

It's the season card holders who didn't bother until the final and did get a ticket that should be getting the criticism, not the people who were denied, many of which like myself followed the lads the whole cup run.

I had no reward for my support while 1000s were rewarded for the lack of it.
 
The Funk with the Junk said:
Harsh, the only people who missed out on tickets to Wembley were non season card holders.

I'm still quite bitter about going to every game but the Man U away and the final missing out on both because I wasn't a season card holder. I felt **** on by the club, especially as there was excess tickets that never went to general sale.

It's the season card holders who didn't bother until the final and did get a ticket that should be getting the criticism, not the people who were denied, many of which like myself followed the lads the whole cup run.
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Whoa there mate, I will hedge you a huge bet that the lads with season cards make up a huge portion of the smaller crowds for the earlier rounds of the cups.

I agree with your point about te unreleased ticket, and lack of any kind of loyalty scheme based on cup ticket purchase, but I'd suggest season card holders absolutely, utterly & completely deserve a Wembley ticket.

I renew blindly every year, even when I was in Spain for 2 years, I've had it since 1987 and have missed around 60 home games all competitions in that time, despite 2 years in Spain, a year in manchester, and several long stints away with work.

Many season card holders are similer, several on this forum have had their cards far longer than me, and attended far more games.

They absolutely & completely deserved their Wembley tickets over some lads who paid a tenner a game to get in.

We used to issue vouchers when you bought cup game tickets I'm sure, dunno why they stopped it and then you could have presented every round, but season card holders should always remain the clubs priority IMO.
 
Gustavo's Gonads said:
I think this is a very important game, we need to remeber how to win against PL opposition, it's a tough, close game but I fancy we will shade it.

Have to say I'll be surprised if there's more than 25k, and as RAW says many of the stay aways will have been those whinging about not getting to Wembley.

That said, I will openly admit I'm unable to attend tonight as I'm in the middle of recruitment, and will be interviewing, last one is 7pm, so will be close to 8 when I'm done....

I will take any insults or flak you wanna chuck, then ignore it, and get on with my day ;)
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Assuming if you are male just to not bother turning up!
 
SAFCDRUM said:
Now that boils my p!ss. Whilst I freely admit i was relying on pure luck to get a wembley ticket i know there were some clueless pleb ends who went.
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There was a family in front of us with 3 kids.

One was about 4 and slept through the entire 2nd half, the middle one was playing on some hand held computer and never looked up and the eldest was back & forth to the snack bar fulling her f**ing horrible fat face with all manner of s**te.

I had mates in nearby pubs who'd travelled down without tickets and couldn't get in.
 
Gustavo's Gonads said:
Whoa there mate, I will hedge you a huge bet that the lads with season cards make up a huge portion of the smaller crowds for the earlier rounds of the cups.

I agree with your point about te unreleased ticket, and lack of any kind of loyalty scheme based on cup ticket purchase, but I'd suggest season card holders absolutely, utterly & completely deserve a Wembley ticket.

I renew blindly every year, even when I was in Spain for 2 years, I've had it since 1987 and have missed around 60 home games all competitions in that time, despite 2 years in Spain, a year in manchester, and several long stints away with work.

Many season card holders are similer, several on this forum have had their cards far longer than me, and attended far more games.

They absolutely & completely deserved their Wembley tickets over some lads who paid a tenner a game to get in.

We used to issue vouchers when you bought cup game tickets I'm sure, dunno why they stopped it and then you could have presented every round, but season card holders should always remain the clubs priority IMO.
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I would hedge that bet too mate, I'd also hedge that half of our Wembley crowd were only at their second cup game of the run. I was just placed in a category I think was undeserved that's all, filed of into a whinging category, when fact is season card holders are just as responsible as the non season card holders for supporting the team in the early rounds but you didn't mention them, just scapegoated the non season cards, Every season card holder was guaranteed a ticket remember, so many of the people who couldn't get final tickets could have supported the lads right through for all you know.

Seems a bit unbalanced to make a scapegoat of people like me that's all.

This isn't an attack on season card holders mate, they're an example used in defence at your and raw's attack on non card holders. Fact is Card holders let our early round attendances down just as much as the none cardholders, yet there people on both sides who don't who did't let the attendances down all.

Don't want to fall out fella, just seemed a one sided comment which didn't take all the factors into consideration which led to some harsh labeling on many people who didn't deserve it(many who do but not all). Especially when they had no reward for supporting the cup run.
 
The Funk with the Junk said:
I would hedge that bet too mate, I'd also hedge that half of our Wembley crowd were only at their second cup game of the run. I was just placed in a category I think was undeserved that's all, filed of into a whinging category, when fact is season card holders are just as responsible as the non season card holders for supporting the team in the early rounds but you didn't mention them, just scapegoated the non season cards, Every season card holder was guaranteed a ticket remember, so many of the people who couldn't get final tickets could have supported the lads right through for all you know.

Seems a bit unbalanced to make a scapegoat of people like me that's all.

This isn't an attack on season card holders mate, they're an example used in defence at your and raw's attack on non card holders. Fact is Card holders let our early round attendances down just as much as the none cardholders, yet there people on both sides who don't who did't let the attendances down all.

Don't want to fall out fella, just seemed a one sided comment which didn't take all the factors into consideration which led to some harsh labeling on many people who didn't deserve it(many who do but not all). Especially when they had no reward for supporting the cup run.
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Won't be any fall out here mate, I assure you.

I get half of your point, but what I'm saying is many of the 25,000 or so season ticket holders will have been present in the 24,000 crowds orr whatever early rounds.

I wouldn't suggest that all people attending cup matches were occasionals, or equally deserving, which is why I referred to the past voucher scheme we had a few years back regarding cup games.

I'd suggest we both have a point but there are 2.4million slants that can be put on it
 
Gustavo's Gonads said:
Won't be any fall out here mate, I assure you.

I get half of your point, but what I'm saying is many of the 25,000 or so season ticket holders will have been present in the 24,000 crowds orr whatever early rounds.

I wouldn't suggest that all people attending cup matches were occasionals, or equally deserving, which is why I referred to the past voucher scheme we had a few years back regarding cup games.

I'd suggest we both have a point but there are 2.4million slants that can be put on it
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I just think that there are season card holders and non card holders who let attendances down as well as card holders and non card holder who don't, but I only saw the non card holders represented in the negativity. I just wanted to make the point it works both way, weather someone is a card holder or not should be completely irrelevant. It's the person who can afford and are free to go who don't bother, who should be getting the flak, these people come from both parties.

I didn't get a Wembley ticket, I moaned, I'm not going tonight, but now I feel **** like I'm part of the attendance problem.
 
The Funk with the Junk said:
I just think that there are season card holders and non card holders who let attendances down as well as card holders and non card holder who don't, but I only saw the non card holders represented in the negativity. I just wanted to make the point it works both way, weather someone is a card holder or not should be completely irrelevant. It's the person who can afford and are free to go who don't bother, who should be getting the flak, these people come from both parties.

I didn't get a Wembley ticket, I moaned, I'm not going tonight, but now I feel **** like I'm part of the attendance problem.
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I've openly stated I ain't going tonight mate, it's never as cut & dried as that.
 
Gus Poyet has made seven changes ahead of tonight’s third round Capital One Cup tie with Stoke City.

Deadline day signing Sebastian Coates is set to make his Black Cats bow this evening, whilst goalkeeper Costel Pantilimon will make his first start at the Stadium of Light, as well as Billy Jones.

Liam Bridcutt will also start against the Potters and Jordi Gomez, who opened the scoring in round two of the competition against Birmingham City at St Andrews will also start tonight.

Meanwhile, former Black Cat Phil Bardsley has been named in Stoke City’s starting line-up as the Staffordshire outfit have made six changes to the side that drew with QPR at the weekend.

Sunderland: Pantilimon, Vergini, Jones, O’Shea (c), Coates, Johnson, Rodwell, Bridcutt, Gomez, Buckley, Altidore.

Subs: Mannone, Van Aanholt, Cattermole, Larsson, Mavrias, Graham, Alvarez.

Stoke City: Butland; Bardsley, Shawcross (c), Huth, Muniesa; Nzonzi, Adam; Arnautovic, Ireland, Assaidi; Diouf.

Subs: Sorensen, Pieters, Moses, Sidwell, Crouch, Bojan,
 
grandpops said:
Gus Poyet has made seven changes ahead of tonight’s third round Capital One Cup tie with Stoke City.

Deadline day signing Sebastian Coates is set to make his Black Cats bow this evening, whilst goalkeeper Costel Pantilimon will make his first start at the Stadium of Light, as well as Billy Jones.


Liam Bridcutt will also start against the Potters and Jordi Gomez, who opened the scoring in round two of the competition against Birmingham City at St Andrews will also start tonight.

Meanwhile, former Black Cat Phil Bardsley has been named in Stoke City’s starting line-up as the Staffordshire outfit have made six changes to the side that drew with QPR at the weekend.

Sunderland: Pantilimon, Vergini, Jones, O’Shea (c), Coates, Johnson, Rodwell, Bridcutt, Gomez, Buckley, Altidore.

Subs: Mannone, Van Aanholt, Cattermole, Larsson, Mavrias, Graham, Alvarez.

Stoke City: Butland; Bardsley, Shawcross (c), Huth, Muniesa; Nzonzi, Adam; Arnautovic, Ireland, Assaidi; Diouf.

Subs: Sorensen, Pieters, Moses, Sidwell, Crouch, Bojan,
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That is almost exactly the team i wanted to see tonight

Haaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaay!
 
Wise Men Say........... said:
That is almost exactly the team i wanted to see tonight

Haaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaay!
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Me too, Rodwell needs time, Buckley needs a start and Jozy needs a goal.

Gomez should take his chance to show what he can do and Poyet needs to show he can be more adventurous.

I'll dance in the street if Altidore cracks one in but don't want to see Graham on the pitch.

Is Fletcher injured?
 
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