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Scottish Independence

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Leo, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    You are very badly informed and tbh honest I am not going all through this again. You do the research.

    The debt has been excepted by the UK as it's debt. I don't think there is ant intention from Scotland not to accept it's share but in law it does not have to.

    Scandanavian taxes again.

    Scandanavia have high levels of services and they choose that as opposed to our tendency to rely on private companies. It reall y does not matter if you pay high taxes if your take home pay is amongst the highest in the world, and it is. People arguing this are making apolitical arguement not a financial one.

    Hopefully if we get a YES vote you will see how wrong you are with regard to Scotland. Many of us don't want to play the big guy around the world btw, the sooner that is over the better.
     
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    Using nationlism as an insult is the usual trick of Tories everywhere, do not compare this the to the BNP or UKIP that is an extreme insult and has no basis in reality.
     
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    Consensus and balance?

    What is it, Democracy not suit you unless it is on your terms? Balance or do you mean staus quo.

    As I said some people just hate there little bubble to be burst.
     
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  4. RAVENBLACK

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    Precisely. The Highlands, the Western Isles, Shetland and The North East Of Scotland will be expected to prop up the malingering junkies and alkies in The Central Belt.
     
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  5. RAVENBLACK

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    The Yes Vote is wallowing in aggressive and violent nationalism you ****in imbecilic ****.
     
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  6. Spurf

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    <laugh>.
     
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    Welcome to the Watford board ER <laugh>
     
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  8. Spurf

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    Is Watford the most right wing football club in Britain?

    I have never seen so many Tories on a football site.

    Is this the influence of that right wing player John Barnes?
     
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  9. Spurf

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    ERINBLACK is amongst friends here. <ok>
     
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  10. RAVENBLACK

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    How do Dan?
     
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  11. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    We actually have a very broad spread of political opinion on here from Tory to extreme left - but you have managed to unite us - congratulations !
     
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    Good cheers ER - see one of our boys scored for Scotland last night?
     
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  13. geitungur akureyrar

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    The response is a long time as I have to find english texts for you.


    Spurf high taxation on high salaries matter when you pay more for nearly everything anyway. As things are salaries are smaller here than UK when tax has been taken.

    This is a good explanation in english of our personal tax system
    http://www.pwc.is/is/assets/document/pwc_tax_brochure2013.pdf%20.

    Also is a good guide to other things
    http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin....jsp?country1=Iceland&country2=United Kingdom
    http://www.mytravelcost.com/Iceland/

    I am sure you can find articles that say London is more expensive than Reykjavík, but London is the most expensive city in Europe. You will not find anything saying Edinburgh is more expensive than Reykjavík.

    If you want to know where our government spends our money
    http://www.statice.is/Statistics/National-accounts-and-public-fin/Public-finances
    When you read it all you will see we benefit in certain places and not in others.

    If we go to the doctor we have to pay even if healthcare is paid for by the government.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Iceland
    and from your own health website http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/countryguide/Pages/healthcareinIceland.aspx
    Private healthcare is nearly not existant, but there is some.

    Public transport is poor as we have a lot of cars, we have no railways at all.

    I cannot say what happens to Danmörk Norway, Sweden and Finnland as I do not live there and I can only try my best to find good Ísland comparison sites.
     
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  14. geitungur akureyrar

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    I do not think this will last for long Orkneyjar, Hjaltlandseyjar, Katanes, Suðrland, Suðreyjar and the Kingdom of Man will wish to return to Norway.
     
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    Don't have Sky so didn't see it.

    But yeah Anya scored.

    I refuse to get Sky or BT.
     
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  16. yorkshirehornet

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    Don't know what you are talking about. I think and continue to think that nationalism is unhelpful as the unit of social measurement. I cannot see how you make the link between my comment and Toryism...... but that again is an example of their being no middle ground in this discussion... and why I decry two party democracy..

    bizarre comment..... again inflammatory on your part.


    Exactly... and that is what this sort of logic does.... in the end taking this further. Aberdeen can declare UDI and become one of the richest states in Europe

    Most of us are def not Tory.... read some other threads...


    <hug> LOL!
     
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  17. yorkshirehornet

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    Of course, most people will vote and do vote on an emotional basis.

    What feels good etc etc.
     
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  18. Spurf

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    Thanks for the info geitungur, some of my family have been to Iceland and said it was very expensive. Are you Icelandic and if so how do you end up supporting Watford?
     
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  19. Spurf

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    If you are not a Tory is just shows how far to the right England has moved in the last 35 years, because you sound just like a Tory to me. Maybe this is being lost by the method of communictaion that we are using.
     
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    A sentiment and vivid description that, I suggest, many of us here on this board share but are just too polite to say so. The mere fact that smurf has tainted us all with the Tory smear is symptomatic of his imbecility.
     
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