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[Chazz Rheinhold]

He did try to buy Waggy but he was not for sale. Clough also said at a public meeting in Hull with Wagstaff in the audience that if he had of signed for him he would have played for England. I agree with that. Kevin Hector was Hull born but never played for his home town club, which was a tragedy. Another two Hull lads who went onto score loads of goals during that era for other clubs were Gerry Ingram and Bob Hatton. Both of them never played for City.
Another one that got away in the 60's probably because we had such a free scoring forward line and productive conveyor belt of youngsters coming through was Kevin Keegan playing for Scunthorpe. Surely we must have had him watched when every club in the country were watching him?

Are you sure about Hector being Hull born? Never heard that before.

I used to know Gerry quite well. Think he's been back in Hull quite a while now and living in his mum's old house, D****** Close, so I've heard.

Gerry was Endike and Hatton went to Ainthorpe i think, both had tie ins with Fred Ramsden.

 

[Pennine Tiger]

The best manager England never had, with or without Peter Taylor.

Agree absolutely. The man was a legend. Nothing
else needs saying.

 

[Pennine Tiger]

He's like Redknapp. The longer they never managed England the better they got at it.

He's nothing like Rednap. He proved that as manager of Nottingham Forest and Derby County in their European Cup victories.

 

[Pennine Tiger]

Kevin Hector was born in Leeds according to Wikepedia.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Are you sure about Hector being Hull born? Never heard that before.

I used to know Gerry quite well. Think he's been back in Hull quite a while now and living in his mum's old house, D****** Close, so I've heard.

Gerry was Endike and Hatton went to Ainthorpe i think, both had tie ins with Fred Ramsden.

Kevin Hector was born in Hull. I used to watch Gerry playing on a Sunday morning for Victoria (I think) on Princes Elizabeth Playing Fields on OPE. Regular crowd of 100 or so to watch him which for Sunday League was amazing.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Kevin Hector was born in Leeds according to Wikepedia.

Yeah just checked that. But dig out any match programmes from the time and they will all say he was born in Hull.
They had a keeper at Derby too. Les ? Green who was also born in Hull.
And running behind the old Baseball Ground was a Hull Street.

 

[originallambrettaman]

The Derby County legends site also has him as Leeds born, maybe he was born there, but moved to Hull as a kid?

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Kevin Hector was born in Hull. I used to watch Gerry playing on a Sunday morning for Victoria (I think) on Princes Elizabeth Playing Fields on OPE. Regular crowd of 100 or so to watch him which for Sunday League was amazing.

Ye think his brother Norman had summat to do with Victoria. Think he played for Nelson as well when he used to come for a holiday when he was in America. Galgy Gray told me he played with Gerry in one game and he strolled through the game at CB, came up for corners and scored 5 headers, leapt like a salmon.


If Hector was he musta left at a young age, never heard it mentioned before. Wiki says Les Green was born in Atherstone and signed for us and played 4 games before leaving.

 

[mazzer]

He tried to buy Waggy and Chillo as a pair, saying they were as good a striking partnership as any in the country at that time. Kevin Hector also played a trial game for the juniors but was considered too small to make the grade.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

The Derby County legends site also has him as Leeds born, maybe he was born there, but moved to Hull as a kid?

Your probably right. I was an avid programme collector when Hector was a player and the City programme always had him down as born in Hull. Perhaps he was and moved to Leeds at an early age? Anyhow it's not that important.
I do remember Brian Clough coming up against Billy Bremner for the first time since his sacking at Leeds. He was managing Forest at the time and Bremner was making his debut for City. City won 1-0 with Bremner scoring the goal.
The Hector tale also applies to Les Green. Perhaps wiki could be wrong? Or maybe I'm getting dementia?

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Your probably right. I was an avid programme collector when Hector was a player and the City programme always had him down as born in Hull. Perhaps he was and moved to Leeds at an early age? Anyhow it's not that important.
I do remember Brian Clough coming up against Billy Bremner for the first time since his sacking at Leeds. He was managing Forest at the time and Bremner was making his debut for City. City won 1-0 with Bremner scoring the goal.

Remember the old man drooling over Bremner, too good for the City players around him. It was a free kick he scored.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Remember the old man drooling over Bremner, too good for the City players around him. It was a free kick he scored.

It was said that Bremner was allowed to train with Leeds and the only time City players saw him was on a match day. It was a free kick he scored from too, North Stand end. Viv Anderson made his debut for Forest in the same game.
I think Bremner had an eye on the managers job at City but when the opportunity came up he was overlooked, from memory I think by another ex-Leeds player who on the coaching staff at City, Bobby Collins, who also didn't last long.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Your probably right. I was an avid programme collector when Hector was a player and the City programme always had him down as born in Hull. Perhaps he was and moved to Leeds at an early age? Anyhow it's not that important.
I do remember Brian Clough coming up against Billy Bremner for the first time since his sacking at Leeds. He was managing Forest at the time and Bremner was making his debut for City. City won 1-0 with Bremner scoring the goal.
The Hector tale also applies to Les Green. Perhaps wiki could be wrong? Or maybe I'm getting dementia?

I went to City as a young lad with my uncle, but Bremner's debut was the first fixture I actually remember.

Got a lot of rust down the back of my neck when that goal went in.

 

[C'mon ref]

Your probably right. I was an avid programme collector when Hector was a player and the City programme always had him down as born in Hull. Perhaps he was and moved to Leeds at an early age? Anyhow it's not that important.
I do remember Brian Clough coming up against Billy Bremner for the first time since his sacking at Leeds. He was managing Forest at the time and Bremner was making his debut for City. City won 1-0 with Bremner scoring the goal.

Remember the old man drooling over Bremner, too good for the City players around him. It was a free kick he scored.

Bremner was class among sh*t in the City team of those days even at the age he was, around 34 I believe, his vision and perception were way to good for the other players. It was good but an embarrasment to watch the little dynamo buzz around the midfield supplying precise through balls that City's other players were too slow to appreciate and take advantage of.

 

[C'mon ref]

Kevin Hector was born in Hull. I used to watch Gerry playing on a Sunday morning for Victoria (I think) on Princes Elizabeth Playing Fields on OPE. Regular crowd of 100 or so to watch him which for Sunday League was amazing.

Ye think his brother Norman had summat to do with Victoria. Think he played for Nelson as well when he used to come for a holiday when he was in America. Galgy Gray told me he played with Gerry in one game and he strolled through the game at CB, came up for corners and scored 5 headers, leapt like a salmon.


If Hector was he musta left at a young age, never heard it mentioned before. Wiki says Les Green was born in Atherstone and signed for us and played 4 games before leaving.

Les Green did indeed play for City I saw him before he went on to play for Derby, but in goalkeeping term he was rather on the small side around 5' 9" or there abouts but held his place at derby for quite a while.

 

[C'mon ref]

Remember the old man drooling over Bremner, too good for the City players around him. It was a free kick he scored.

It was said that Bremner was allowed to train with Leeds and the only time City players saw him was on a match day. It was a free kick he scored from too, North Stand end. Viv Anderson made his debut for Forest in the same game.
I think Bremner had an eye on the managers job at City but when the opportunity came up he was overlooked, from memory I think by another ex-Leeds player who on the coaching staff at City, Bobby Collins, who also didn't last long.

Did Eddie Gray also have a spell as boss at one time as well? Bobby Collins was another pint size player Leeds had along with Johnny Giles in those days, small but formidable. Giles also played for Man Utd before Leeds where another pint sized tennacious player was, Nobby Stiles.

 

[look_back_in_amber]

I went to City as a young lad with my uncle, but Bremner's debut was the first fixture I actually remember.

Got a lot of rust down the back of my neck when that goal went in.

When was that game played? For me it was also one of the earliest I remember attending, others were the game when John Hawley scored THAT amazing goal from what seemed like about 40 yards out, that too was scored into the North Stand goal, and another was the 5-0 hammering of Rotherham.

 

[originallambrettaman]

When was that game played? For me it was also one of the earliest I remember attending, others were the game when John Hawley scored THAT amazing goal from what seemed like about 40 yards out, that too was scored into the North Stand goal, and another was the 5-0 hammering of Rotherham.

September '76.

 

[look_back_in_amber]

Cheers Lambo, my first game was a few seasons prior to that match, I think around 1973. My older brother, who's 11 years older than me took me to my first match, I can't remember who the opposition was but I can remember him saying to me that I should take my boots in case they were short of numbers, I remember being impressed by that

 

[balkan tiger]

Cheers Lambo, my first game was a few seasons prior to that match, I think around 1973. My older brother, who's 11 years older than me took me to my first match, I can't remember who the opposition was but I can remember him saying to me that I should take my boots in case they were short of numbers, I remember being impressed by that

Sounds like were all of the same era. I was at the Bremner game can't remember it though. I do remember, even though i was younger going with my older brother to see City against the wet spam, walking along Anlaby Rd. them on one side us on the other. Was the same against Man Utd. Scary times but good memories now looking back.