Slightly OT Paul Gascoigne

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Mental health issues must be an awful thing to suffer from. We all probably know someone with them and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. They deserve help and patience and as much care (if not more) than any physical illness. The mind is a fragile thing. If Gazza wants help he will get it. Ultimately only he knows when he's ready to stop drinking.
 
I think Gazza should be put in a secure unit away from all harmful substances and be found ways of improving his life.
 
How weird is this thread!?

Alan McGregor slags off Gazza to which most kick off.
Alan McGregor reacts and in a sense 'does a Gazza' to which many kick off.

How could he win in this situation?

And to suggest banning him WOULDN'T be stopping him expressing himself is ****ing laughable.

The poor guy has really improved recently and offers more to the forum now. I can see a witchhunt coming on here.
 
I think Gazza should be put in a secure unit away from all harmful substances and be found ways of improving his life.

How weird is this thread!?

Alan McGregor slags off Gazza to which most kick off.
Alan McGregor reacts and in a sense 'does a Gazza' to which many kick off.

How could he win in this situation?

And to suggest banning him WOULDN'T be stopping him expressing himself is ****ing laughable.

The poor guy has really improved recently and offers more to the forum now. I can see a witchhunt coming on here.


I think Peter has it right for Gazza, as it is clearly beyond the wit or ability of Gazza to exercise his own controls. He needs solutions, not excuses or sentimental pandering.

Benjo has it spot on.
 
He's ill.

"You wouldn't ask why someone got cancer or diabetes or asthma like it was their fault. You wouldn't say: 'What have you got to get cancerous about?' Those 'nothing to get depressed about' people don't understand that it's an illness. Some people get mentally ill and some don't - just as with a physical illness. If you're coughing up blood, break your leg or have a raging temperature, it is obvious what you have to do. But if you suddenly have these overwhelming feelings of nothingness, deadness and sadness, who do you speak to?"

Steven Fry. recently.

Interesting take. Does his illness make him beat up women or is it just down to him being a complete ****? If a 'nobody' was in this state and had done the things he'd done he'd get no sympathy. Why does the fact he was good at kicking a football afford him that?

Some of the comments on this thread regarding depression and alcoholism are f**king pig-ignorant. I wonder what their view would be if they suffered from these mental diseases. Telling an alcoholic or a depressed person to stop drinking or to stop being depressed is like telling a gay person to stop being gay. Have a f**king word with yourselves.

When you pass your average smackhead begging on the street is your first thought about their illness? Interesting the way an alcoholic is viewed much more sympathetically than someone who sticks needles in their arm.
 
Interesting take. Does his illness make him beat up women or is it just down to him being a complete ****? If a 'nobody' was in this state and had done the things he'd done he'd get no sympathy. Why does the fact he was good at kicking a football afford him that?



When you pass your average smackhead begging on the street is your first thought about their illness? Interesting the way an alcoholic is viewed much more sympathetically than someone who sticks needles in their arm.

You would think Alcoholics would be treated with more contempt then drug addicts because 95% of people consume alcohol with no problems.
 
Interesting take. Does his illness make him beat up women or is it just down to him being a complete ****? If a 'nobody' was in this state and had done the things he'd done he'd get no sympathy. Why does the fact he was good at kicking a football afford him that?



When you pass your average smackhead begging on the street is your first thought about their illness? Interesting the way an alcoholic is viewed much more sympathetically than someone who sticks needles in their arm.

Yes, and I pity them. Unlike some on here, I show compassion for my fellow man.
 
Charlie1:6948350 said:
Mental health issues must be an awful thing to suffer from. We all probably know someone with them and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. They deserve help and patience and as much care (if not more) than any physical illness. The mind is a fragile thing. If Gazza wants help he will get it. Ultimately only he knows when he's ready to stop drinking.


Best Post on here imo
 
he is, i'm not sure i can feel sorry for him..

Who's asking you to feel sorry for him? If you aren't interested you could just leave him alone, something the scummy tabloids won't. It's really just the scummy tabloids that encourage the stupid exploitative and sensationalising attitude of the public, but people are too stupid to see it, too thick.
 
The tabloids will slobber all over it whatever. They slobber all over that girl who was kidnapped as well, anything they can sensationalize they will and the idiot readers will lap it up just for the sensationalist angle.
 
I actually think he is a lost cause now like George Best, many have tried to help him, including Gary Lineker and others have paid £30K to send him to rehab which hasn't worked. If friends do that for you and you let them down by getting back on the booze, sadly he is on the slippery slope and whatever anyone does to help him, I am afraid will probably not work.
 
The significant thing on here is that so many are lumping his alcoholism in with depression, even though they are seperate, but often commonly associated illnesses. There is a great deal of love and acknowledgment for Paul's career achievements; after all he was a brilliant footballer. I, maybe not you, recall he didn't always deliver; it was never too evident why, but that tale is now told. He was not always ill, no more than you and I. He choose his friends with a free will; not too many of them linger, just the ones (NOT THE TWO DJs) who had more sense. I've read some heartfelt and some sycophantic posts on here, but I really do wonder how many of you would stretch your words to actions if faced with the day-to-day reality of Paul Gascoigne. He thrives on excuses and soft options, he lives for drink and fame. Is Stephen Fry an alcoholic or is Jonathon Ross a depressive? Was Paul depressed when he used his fists on his wife? He might want you to think he was, but no, he was simply being him, his father's son - but Paul had advice and opportunity in abundance.
Paul became a depressive long after his high life of fame and all its glories. He was a very happy liar, cheat and bullying woman beater long before he became depressed about his self-inflicted decline. Now comes the Tallyman, collecting his dues; it happens to us all, to one degree or another. Tea, treatment, even sympathy, but cut out the dripping sentiment, it's time for Paul Gascoigne to help Paul Gasgoine.