Off Topic Pointless point-scoring thread

[Tina.]

http://www.discoverglasgow.org/twin-towns-sister-cities/4568183453

 

[DevAdvocate]

FIFA, UEFA, SFA, SPFL, where does the corruption stop?

After that decision by Uefa I feel like giving up on football. Where does the corruption end ?

looks like that unseen hand and been busy over the last 24 hours, i hope legia appeal against the ruling, not sure please correct me if i’m wrong if they are not successful can they not take any further and therefore suspend the CL until it has been sorted, watched the hemming berg interview and really feel for the guy be nice if we could sign him and pump that lot next season, maybe uefa are wanting ra sellick in CL so they can take all the money back off them when state aid is proven we can all dream eh

What a farce of a decision , thing is here that people must realise is that the opposition must lodge a protest for anything to happen , so who gave Celtic the heads up that something was amiss ? Mmmnnn , I smell a rat , but rules are rules eh ? What a joke , surely I’m the name of sporting integrity CFC would be ashamed , embarrassed and feel that because the man was on the park for a matter of seconds , that having been humiliated on the field of play , not once but twice , they would be looking at the integrity of the sporting competition and waive the right to passage into the next round , after all this is the club and the CEO that harped on and on and on about sporting integrity for years

This is what is being missed by many of our compliant mhedia……the fact of the matter is that Celtic had to lodge an official protest for this to be heard.

A Mr Tony McGlennan is set to replace Lunny at the SFA another …Do the Hokey Cokey…..One Tim in One Tim out . Oh I really have had enough of this crap.

Shocking, but at least Legia aren’t being relegated to the bottom tier for this “administration error”.

As usual…..the ‘great unwashed’ get their back door re-entry after being humiliated like no other Sellik team ever has been in a Euro Quali. Does anyone else think the ‘kangaroo court’ decision was rushed out there a bit quick….am sure with the Glesga Jap whinging and pining and spittin the dumy oot…..they thought they better act quickly to stop him greetin……pathetic and I guarantee no other team would have been re-instated and Legia expelled so quickly.

I don't know what's funnier, the Paranoia or the beel.

 

[VenomPD]

It was the 4th official who reported Legia. Not anyone from Celtic.

Celtic get pumped 6-1 but we still get unqualified Hun spastic apoplexy. Deep fried magic.

 

[DevAdvocate]

It was the 4th official who reported Legia. Not anyone from Celtic.

Celtic get pumped 6-1 but we still get unqualified Hun spastic apoplexy. Deep fried magic.

I read somewhere that Celtic had to make an official complaint for any action to be taken, I don't actually know if it's true but these cretins have obviously read it and taken it as gospel. Personally I can't see any reason why Celtic would have to lodge a complaint if the rules were broken. That's the sort of **** the SFA would come up with.

 

[DevAdvocate]

This puts an entirely different light on what actually happened:

Bartosz Bereszynski is a Polish international who has won two caps for his country. He started his career at Lech Poznan in 2009 before joining Legia Warsaw in 2013. The 22-year-old was suspended for the match having picked up a three match ban last season after being sent off against Apallon in the Europa League.

He could have served two matches of his suspension in the second round against St Patrick's but Legia failed to register the defender for those matches allowing Berg to choose from his full compliment of 25 players.

In other words, instead of having a 24 man squad Berg and Legia decided 25 men would be better. If UEFA ignored that they would be giving Carte Blanche for every team to do the same. The whole point of player Bans in Europe is to punish the Club by reducing the available squad pool of the offending team.

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[VenomPD]

I read somewhere that Celtic had to make an official complaint for any action to be taken, I don't actually know if it's true but these cretins have obviously read it and taken it as gospel. Personally I can't see any reason why Celtic would have to lodge a complaint if the rules were broken. That's the sort of **** the SFA would come up with.

Celtic would be ****ing stupid not to complain if they knew about it. It's as simple as that, pragmatism comes first.

 

[DevAdvocate]

Celtic would be ****ing stupid not to complain if they knew about it. It's as simple as that, pragmatism comes first.

It's a blatant lie as it turns out:

Some commentators have compared the case to a match involving Debrecen in 2010 who were fined £15,000 for a similar incident, but there is a clear difference in those scenarios. As illustrated below:

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Note the difference in wording between Rules 1 & 3 here. Legia come under 1, Debrecen came under 3.

Celtic's qualification has nothing to do with shady deals, cheating, lady luck, the rub of the green or a Papal conspiracy (against a side from Poland...). It was not even like a scene from Dodgeball with some sort of UEFA policy made up on the hoof. This was a fairly obvious stance for UEFA to take, one they decided upon themselves and one that backs up previous punishments.

Analysing some of the reaction to the decision, you would have thought that it was somehow Celtic's wrongdoing. But this had nothing to do with the Scottish champions. All Celtic did wrong was left out there on the pitch. They were ritually humped over two legs by Henning Berg's team, 4-1 in Warsaw and 2-0 in the second leg in what was basically another away match with Celtic Park out of commission due to the Commonwealth Games.

SO Celtic did not have to protest, UEFA made the simple decision on their own.

 

[Big Audio Dynamite]

I read somewhere that Celtic had to make an official complaint for any action to be taken, I don't actually know if it's true but these cretins have obviously read it and taken it as gospel. Personally I can't see any reason why Celtic would have to lodge a complaint if the rules were broken. That's the sort of **** the SFA would come up with.

It was an official from Switzerland who noticed their mistake.

 

[VenomPD]

Thought that might be the case. I was sure I read yesterday that it was the 4th official who reported Legia.

It's a sore one for Legia & their fans but I guarantee they will never make the same ****-up again.

 

[Big Audio Dynamite]

Added to the enemies list

 

[DevAdvocate]

It was an official from Switzerland who noticed their mistake.

Does not matter a jot, the paranoid loonballs among the Gers support have already decided Lawell or Quinn were behind this because they have some "mole" within UEFA on speed dial.

 

[VenomPD]

Aye we're so well in with UEFA a section of our support made a banner especially for them.

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[DevAdvocate]

From all the literature gathered, Celtic were unaware that Legia had committed one of football's oldest crimes.

Would UEFA have taken similar action against Barcelona, Real Madrid or even Celtic with their huge worldwide fanbase? That is a moot point, but they have doled out similar punishments to other clubs in the past. Clubs know what the punishment is if they are not thorough with their own squad lists, and who can and can't play.

Legia's secretary was not only culpable in failing to make themselves fully aware of who was eligible, but the team was guilty of general wastefulness when blowing the chance to wallow in double figures rather than declare on only 4-1 in Warsaw. If Legia had won the first leg 6,7 or 8-1 as they could and should have against a rotten Scottish team, all this reddening of faces and noise would not have entered the equation.

Their own profligacy caught up with them when UEFA made their decision to press the ejector button. Ivica Vrdoljak missed two penalties. Two penalties with Celtic down to 10 men, and on their knees? The mistakes are all on Legia against a side who could not cope with them.

UEFA's decision is worth around £5 million to Celtic. More if they make it through. When you only earn £3m from claiming the Scottish Premiership, that is a lot of money to enjoy.

Participation in the Europa League group stage is guaranteed until Christmas, but suddenly Celtic find themselves in football's equivalent of Brewster's Millions. For Celtic, it is like picking up a winning lottery ticket with the prospect of around £20m available for a third straight season in the group stage if they can engineer a path past Slovenian champions Maribor.They will need a markedly improved performance than than the dreadful fare they offered up against Legia, but they have profited from playing by the rules if not their own play. There is a lesson to be gleaned from that.

Scottish Premiership clubs will be keen to see them make it with £1m doled out between them for Celtic's progress to the group stage.

Legia became the latest victim of a harsh rule book, but they are not really victims here. Not when they failed to follow the rule book.
Not when they were instrumental in their own chaotic downfall.

Rather than Celtic's blunt attackers, that is what has hurt Legia the most.

Fair summary I think.

 

[harryhood67]

I wish some buns would read that , on other forum their idiots saying their club would have said "Warsaw you beat us fair and square through you go" !! This Coming from fans who watched their club cheat their way through scottish football for over a hundred year. So the next time they win a game through a dubious decision , soft penalty , wrong ordering off , offside goal against their scottish opposition , will they be happy to alter the result or like last season why didn't they let Albion Rovers progress in the Scottish cup after a shocking honest mistake ???

 

[The Raging Oxter]

Let's get it straight and call it like it is with this mob;

celtic are running the footballing authority in this country, they are running the media, they have friends in the Council and the Scottish/British Governement.

We now know there are people making sure that when they are defeated, they'll find something to claim they are cheated so that they are reinstated.

Warsaw shouldn't have fielded an ineligible player but did this guy make a difference? Why do other clubs receive a fine but celtics opponents get immediately pumped out and replaced with a celtic by? How many times in the next 10 years will celtic get through via this method as it seems to be a more popular method of qualification than winning the tie for them these days.

As celtic can't win they appear to get the full backing of the footballing authorities to make sure they gain an advantage through punishments dished out by the authorities, they have a 13th, 14th, 15th and 16th man nevermind a 12th.

Hopefully Uefa and all of celtic's opponents in future ties work together to make sure this doesn't happen again because it's an absolute joke.

Don't get me wrong to answer the OP, I think most teams with that amount of money at stake would take the by, it does feel however presently that if Independence fails by 80% of the vote, a technicality will be found in law that see's us become independent with the Pope as head of state.

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[DevAdvocate]

I wish some buns would read that , on other forum their idiots saying their club would have said "Warsaw you beat us fair and square through you go" !! This Coming from fans who watched their club cheat their way through scottish football for over a hundred year. So the next time they win a game through a dubious decision , soft penalty , wrong ordering off , offside goal against their scottish opposition , will they be happy to alter the result or like last season why didn't they let Albion Rovers progress in the Scottish cup after a shocking honest mistake ???

The simple fact is Legia had a full 25 man squad to choose from in 3 games, 2 against St Pats and 1 against us in Poland. Who knows who the extra ineligble player was in each of those three 25 man squads, either way they flouted UEFA's rules and gained an advantage - however minimal that advantage was - over 3 full games of football. UEFA had no choice so I doubt very much whether the appeal will succeed.

No club would be so stupid as to say "no thanks, we lost fair and square", the Gers fans who say that are fooling no one, least of all themselves it just makes me laugh.

 

[DevAdvocate]

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The Pope.

 

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The simple fact is Legia had a full 25 man squad to choose from in 3 games, 2 against St Pats and 1 against us in Poland. Who knows who the extra ineligble player was in each of those three 25 man squads, either way they flouted UEFA's rules and gained an advantage - however minimal that advantage was - over 3 full games of football. UEFA had no choice so I doubt very much whether the appeal will succeed.

No club would be so stupid as to say "no thanks, we lost fair and square", the Gers fans who say that are fooling no one, least of all themselves it just makes me laugh.

Thing is Dev we all have our little football dreams to wind up the opposition - we win a cup, thy go down lose in finals on pnaltis, go bust etc etc etc. I don't think anyone ever has a fantasy where they get knocked out of the cup 6-1 and then get reinstated. It's absolutely mental

 

[VenomPD]

ST that's the work of some kind of savant channelling crazy deid Huns. Who wrote it?

 

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That's mental...