Scotch Independence - the countdown

Jesus, don't you ever have a day off?

 

No. I do actually work seven days per week and will continue doing so until September.

 

I once thought you possessed a modicum of intelligence.

But no you are just another sheep believing the SNP untruths.

Even if we do get Independence we will vote in Labour, guaranteed.

 

So be it. No skin off ma baws.

 

Fine we can agree at last.

I still will vote NO though after being presented with **** all facts from both sides. It's all been bluster and avoiding the main issues from both sides.

 

I don't think Labours behaviour during the run up to this referendum will be easily forgotten . Siding with the Tories will see them lose the first election after independence at least .

 

Doubt it, even if independence happens which is unlikely.

 

Labour have no chance of winning the next Holyrood election. They're trailing miles behind the SNP in the polls and they've got Joanne Lamont as leader.

 

the no vote is still in charge so it is irrelevant anyway.

snp cannot attract the female vote nor the reduced youngsters age vote

 

Share of vote among young people is increasing. Ditto with the female vote. Ditto with the Labour vote.

 

Stonehaven is in Aberdeenshire you daft bawbag.

I'd take you seriously if you didn't refer to Perth as a "nice city" cause you like Dunkeld. Don't get pedantic with me fanny features.

 

Aberdeenshire is an entirely different entity to Aberdeen City you ****in clownshoe.

Christ you're dense.

 

And Perthshire is a entirely differently entity to Perth City.

It's never stopped you so go **** yourself spackeroo.

 

Ignoramus.

Is Stirling part of Glasgow fannyfart? Convienently ignored that I see.

 

Having just been swollen by pride and wept my way through the games opening ceremony am voting YES! YES! YES! YES!

 

Due to a calamitous error of posting, I somehow managed to send the same message three times. My oops. I apologise. Please ignore this cock-up of mine. <red faced>

 

Due to a calamitous error of posting, I somehow managed to send the same message three times. My oops. I apologise. Please ignore this cock-up of mine. <red faced>

 

There is a sort of fallacy going around, about this election, and that is the erroneous belief amongst many Scots that the English really care about whether Scotland votes for independence or not. Perhaps there may be some "feeling" about it all in the far north of England and amongst a few of the more rabid Daily Mail or Sun readers south of the border, but those apart from those, frankly my dears, we couldn't give a damn.

Only two things even surprise me about it all. 1) That it has taken the Scots this long to get a re-run of the 1978 fiasco and 2) That there is still a measure of doubt about the outcome. If I were Scottish it would be a no-brainer.

A couple of months ago, I asked a Scottish colleague who, despite having lived in England for all her married life and done very nicely, thank you very much and is driving her office co-workers nuts with her relentless (and monotonous) determination to "rid my country of the foreign invader" (that'd be the country you left in order to improve your life and haven't lived in for more than thirty years, would it, Mona..?), a simple question and it was this:

My wife is half Scottish. I am full-blood English. If Scotland votes yes, she will be able, by virtue of her Scottish father (now deceased) to acquire dual nationality, as will our daughters (they have a Scottish blood grandparent). Would I also be able to do so despite having no Scottish blood relative, but qualify by marriage.

It isn't that I particularly want dual nationality. I'm comfortable in my own skin. But I ask because the thought occurs to me that there is probably nary a family anywhere in the country, north or south, that hasn't been mixed by marriage at some point and has produced progeny that would therefore be of mixed English and Scottish blood. It is quite likely that, if everybody who was able to take up the offer did so then any claim of "Scotland for the Scottish" would be at best, ironic and the stuff of very English humour.

I suppose there are true full blood Scots roaming in the gloaming somewhere in the Outer Hebrides, ritually burning each other as blood sacrifices to their pagan Gods or whatever it is they do in the long winter nights, but I would suggest there is probably the odd drop of Anglo blood scattered here and there too.

My colleague was unable to answer my question so I will put it to the group here. Does anybody know..? I'd appreciate an answer.


As for the referendum itself, well, my view on it is that democracy will take its course and the will of the people be done. Fair play one way or the other. I don't mind if Scotland goes independent. Good luck to them. I can still recall seeing grainy old black and white images on our telly, of the Union Flag being hauled down in places like Kenya and Jamaica and other parts of the old Empire, celebrating the independence in those countries. It was all done in a very civilised way and although I'm in no doubt that many Scots will tastelessly gloat (should they win), My shoulders are broad enough to shrug that off.

I'm of the view that historically, Britain gained far more credit for the way she disposed of an empire, than she ever got from acquiring it.

All I ask is that once it's all over and the initial euphoria (or calamitous depression as the case may be) has worn off, let this referendum be the end of it. One way or another, let's get it done and dusted and call it a day. It's dominating far too much of our attention and it's becoming tiresome now. Let's agree to abide by the result and just get on with our lives thereafter.

Let the voting commence.

 

Aye yer right . The fallacy around this election is ......it's not a f**king election you moron

 

I love it when someone goes to the effort of writing a 500 word article to point out they don't care.

1978? I'm assuming he's referring to Scotland's shambolic showing at the World Cup in Argentina? He couldn't possibly mean the referendum of 1979 surely?