David Cameron covered up ****philia
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Sisu:6732745 said:Nope, the opposite mate, I'm saying you've the right to whatever "leanings" you like, and to post them here. What I and everyone else should have is the right to is an opportunity to respond or dismiss you. You're putting it out here, nobody asked you to.
. You talk about being a historian, do they all resort to personal references, of which might they add they have no idea of, just assumptions, do Historians work off of assumptions even? Doesn't seem like a good idea to me, neither is attacking the proponent of different ideas.
You're grasp on irony is tenuous since you explain you blocked Dave because he called you names or said you talk **** and then you do the same to me when I deliberately stayed clear of the details of your posts and commented on why your tactics concerned me. So be it.
I respond albeit in slightly combative nature because I made no posts about individuals and my name is mentioned 6 7 times since yesterday, maybe more, a certain mod bitched at me for that referring to one's name, the actual reason I said delete those threads the other day, as I was threatened with editing of my posts, I am not seeking you out on a thread nothing to do with the subject of DirtyFrank and passing judgements of you, yet you are, so you draw me out, pass incorrect uninformed judgements on me, then change tact to the abuse part while ignoring the salient points that I become the subject and not the subject and you were wrong for claiming I am ignoring people because they disagree. and then criticise me if I am not pleasant about it, by political leanings given the context you meant Nazi?You are a grown man right? I think I understand Irony just fine Frank, just fine.
I was concerned and you've confirmed it yet again that what you want is a soap box to vent your views (whatever I think of them personally is irrelevant here) but you are not adult enough to take the public criticism for holding those views or have them disagreed with or yes even laughed at and dismissed. You have used every tactic at your disposal to avoid rebuttal from blocking to wanting one post threads by yours truly.
A soap box? I do not wish to have this discussion you brought about which is not the topic, I've replied to comments that were about the topic, not all comments and have not added anyone to my ignore list as a result of posts on this thread. What you again incorrectly perceive as me having these tactics when I think it is clear to any person who lacks self important and pretentiousness, of which you have limitless amounts, I am an emotional individual, I see things like this subject and it gets me pissed off at times and I post it, not perfect I know but it is what it is, and not what ever clap trap nonsense you are trying to portray it as. There are times when I even regret posting a thread 20 minutes later, they are quite negative
In short and this may be pretentious you write with the fervour of an immature teenager who has recently been exposed to a lot of new ideas which you see as absolute truths and are horrified that others dont share your indignant righteousness.
Well tough that's the real world. If you don't like it go find an A level politics forum, they'll have that shiny eyed enthusiasm...except some of them might disagree with you too.
Of course you can take the chicken way out and just block me....or ask for your thread to be closed once you've had another righteous vent?
now after ignoring most of my salient points you were supposed to reply to, you again try give this image of a person you don't know never really talked to, if you can't see the shortsightedness in that lad then..
people disagree with me all the time, not that I expect anyone to come to my defence here and say yes he can be disagreed with without abusing people, my argument with Bodanki the other day I think is a good indicator.
Now you are also trying a bit of childish button pushing, hope that works out for you
All in all Frank, since we had words over the last subject, in fact it was just one of my posts, not a topic, you've obviously got some impression of who I am. You couldn't be further from the mark I reckon. that's probably your problem to worry about or not.. is that you seem pretty sure based on nothing but assumptions, not educated guesses.
Actually Frank, I apologised for my last OT thread right at the start of it
#canthelpmyself
Who else on here has people on their ignore list? Bet you have your reasons. If not Frank will give you those reasons, free of charge.
#canthelpmyself
Who else on here has people on their ignore list? Bet you have your reasons. If not Frank will give you those reasons, free of charge.
Any posts with you or UIR do not count, not when you just post to start **** IMO
always the hilarious dude.. who trolls several Liverpool sites looking for his daily wum quota to be filled.
You're at least pretty decent at trolling\fishing Tobes I'll give you that
Any posts with you or UIR do not count, not when you just post to start **** IMO
always the hilarious dude.. who trolls several Liverpool sites looking for his daily wum quota to be filled.
You're at least pretty decent at trolling\fishing Tobes I'll give you that
I see you've taken me off ignore then, not that you ever really ignored any of my posts whilst supposedly ignoring me
I don't go on any kopite sites at all lad, only the occasional laugh at rawk via an Everton website actually.
So your usual quota of being wrong is bang on mate
Lol, As I said Sisu, you're entiltled to your own opinion.
I've said all I need to say. To continue this would be pointless character assassination.
Cut and paste away!
I've said all I need to say. To continue this would be pointless character assassination.
Cut and paste away!
A few people took the piss Sisu when you posted the OP, but looks like you were spot on regarding some of the details that are disturbingly emerging
I think the best one is "Bring back national service to sort out these terrible teenagers" by people who have never had to do any national service.
They've 'lost' 50-odd files that were given to them by the late Geoff Dicks, MP. Why don't they just ask MI5 for their copies (don't ****ing think for one microsecond that if incriminating evidence on the rich and powerful exists that they didn't immediately requisition copies from the Civil Service), and if 5 has them then the CIA has them, and if they have them Murdoch will have copies. And there's the rub - if these files get out and the rich and the powerful are exposed (judges, top politicians, top civil servants that allocate privatised contracts (you know where this is going) then 'they' have no hold on those with their hands on the levers of power.
It won't happen. people. They made a mistake letting the South Yorkshire police eventually cop (no pun intended) for Hillsborough, though most of the nominal culprits are dead, but they won't let the same thing happen to anyone who still is useful to them. Far better, from their perspective, to have a ***** afraid of exposure in power who can be controlled than an honest person who can't. Expect a few more dead men like Jimmy Saville to be outed, but it not to be the fault of anyone about now, no siree.
It won't happen. people. They made a mistake letting the South Yorkshire police eventually cop (no pun intended) for Hillsborough, though most of the nominal culprits are dead, but they won't let the same thing happen to anyone who still is useful to them. Far better, from their perspective, to have a ***** afraid of exposure in power who can be controlled than an honest person who can't. Expect a few more dead men like Jimmy Saville to be outed, but it not to be the fault of anyone about now, no siree.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. I think the main problem here is the lack of tolerance for the opinions of people who aren't in the main group of posters on the forum. Certain people can post off topic threads without being challenged or abused, even if it is the biggest pile of bullshit ever seen on the internet. Sisu posts a thread = instant abuse that is accepted by everyone and not challenged by anybody here.
So it comes to a point where people don't even read what he says, they just throw pointless abuse at him, which turns any thread he starts into a slanging match which gets boring after a couple of posts, especially when its the same people involved in every argument. Its actually really commendable that instead of responding with abuse he has tried to put others on ignore or stopped discussing stuff he finds interesting because certain people don't allow him that right on the forum.
I agree with you UIR!!!! What was the purpose of the strap or the cane at school - certainly not educational. It may or may not have put the fear of god into the pupils at the time. I know from experience. The best teachers were/are the ones who can inspire students with words, with positive actions, who can empathise with their students without being overtly friendly.
Teenagers of yesteryear were at best, just as bad as any teens today.
No offence to anyone in the military either but they are hardly a great example of how to behave. Plus what better way to teach people to be upstanding members of society than teaching them to kill those who have a different view point...
You should never miss an opportunity to quote Monty Python:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI
My conspiracies? I wonder if I created a thread 10 years ago about Savile and the BBC coverup would you have called it a conspiracy and laughed?
There are loads of victims that are being ignored lad, this is not someone putting together some vague disconnected documents and ideas as per bog standard conspiracy theory. It is based on people's accounts of a gruesome childhood in the hands of the state and the exploitation of them sexually by a ***** network that funnily enough had extremely close connections with the Royal family, we know *****s operate in rings, so it's funny that most associates of Savile should be "clear" of suspicion just because we don't want to believe otherwise.
Seriously, it's attitudes like this that stop many victims coming forward.
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldrepo...and-where-underage-sex-slaves-were-held/81521
Of course Bill was just friendly with this *****phile, just like Charles was "friendly" with Savile.
The age of consent in the Vatican was 12 till last year? They had a gang of rent boys holed up in there too, all facts btw, not conspiracy. ****ing 13 year old boys in the Vatican, wow. A nest of ****ing *****s
coincidence of course, 2 very high profile global figures connected to ***** rings. Charles and Bill. Of course they had nothing to do with it, I mean, we should just assume that right?
just out of interest sisu, if one of your friends ever gets arrested for being a peadophile will that mean you are one too?
Have Sisu's friends been touching peas inappropriately?
Maybe, but they probably had the Bilderbergers consent so they should be ok.
Unless someone manages to link them to the Government, the Royal family, the Catholic Church, all World leaders etc, in which case they are obviously guilty and so screwed
Sorry L, missed your response earlier. I sort of agree with you except:
I'm thinking you think I took a dislike to the blocking alone...I understand blocking, wouldn't do it myself but sure if you can't stand someone go for it.it was more the possibility of someone being able to post something unpopular then dictate that no debate could occur (even while apologising for it).... You wouldn't accept it from Tobes if he started a thread, declared don't bother debating because I'm an expert and I'll "give you a free lesson" then quickly asked for the thread to be closed before someone requested said lesson......
2) you may be right about instant, unreasonable dismissal, although I could say a lot of people seem to be reacting to the PR officer of the national enquirer approach. I.e. it's not a personal post: it's a paste job of the latest conspiracy theory blog...and the response to any challenge is copy paste in volumes that bury said response.
And to answer the Swan as well.
If I was the evil Euro American Zionist world domination, child molestation conspiracy; the one thing I'd definately love is for the truth to keep leaking out in such an emotional batshit crazy way that all us lazy arsed normal people think it's too far fetched to believe. .....Sift through the dirt before displaying the gold.
Of course the benefit of claiming everything is a conspiracy is that you will eventually be proved right: at least once.....
I'm thinking you think I took a dislike to the blocking alone...I understand blocking, wouldn't do it myself but sure if you can't stand someone go for it.it was more the possibility of someone being able to post something unpopular then dictate that no debate could occur (even while apologising for it).... You wouldn't accept it from Tobes if he started a thread, declared don't bother debating because I'm an expert and I'll "give you a free lesson" then quickly asked for the thread to be closed before someone requested said lesson......
2) you may be right about instant, unreasonable dismissal, although I could say a lot of people seem to be reacting to the PR officer of the national enquirer approach. I.e. it's not a personal post: it's a paste job of the latest conspiracy theory blog...and the response to any challenge is copy paste in volumes that bury said response.
And to answer the Swan as well.
If I was the evil Euro American Zionist world domination, child molestation conspiracy; the one thing I'd definately love is for the truth to keep leaking out in such an emotional batshit crazy way that all us lazy arsed normal people think it's too far fetched to believe. .....Sift through the dirt before displaying the gold.
Of course the benefit of claiming everything is a conspiracy is that you will eventually be proved right: at least once.....
Can't disagree with any of that Frank, I can see why it annoyed you based on that!