He scored the winner in the copa del ray and in the C.L final. Suarez scored some goals v Norwich though so much be better....
he got a goal or an assist in 23 out of 33 apps last season. Messi got 22 out of 31. The only side in the league who stopped him scoring or creating in both home and away games last season was Chelsea.
Aye, those leagues are comparable right enough. First stat shows the promise, second stat shows what both he and us worked on him becoming. Care to guess how many he'll score for Barca in a league where his penchant for toppling will be rewarded and he'll not be ignored when he's kicked black and blue. I'd agree a bit though, a club can only facilitate a players improvement, the player has to put the work in.
He's a no go. For me, it's very simple. We need to improve our first XI this summer (and thus the squad). Selling Suarez, for whatever amount of money it would be for, would only make us weaker as, imo, there are only two other players in the world who are capable of having such a huge impact on a game - even if they don't score- and obviously neither would join us. After that, you've got other top drawer players who around Suarez's level but again, many are at top teams already and wouldn't join us. Sanchez is good, but over rated for me. He's not as good as his reputation. He's the best we could hope for from Barca, but still not really a good enough replacement. If we sell Suarez, we'll be bringing in a lesser player and hoping they'll step up to a higher level like Suarez did. That's a gamble. We've spend years trying to get back into the top 4 and the CL, we're there now, we shouldn't be shooting ourselves in the foot by selling our best player. He's a tit, but he's our tit and he performed admirably last season in terms of performances and behaviour for us. I believe the club can keep him in line now. Any first XI that we can come up with without Suarez will be weaker. Only our bench would be stronger.
It will be interesting how the media respond to any controversy. Without being to bait ABLs to read their articles I expect the English media's interest in Suarez will greatly diminish. No more 8 simultaneous front page articles on #bbcsalford And without the English media's Selective Outrage Syndrome putting pressure on the FA I expect future bans to be far more reasonable in length and terms.
And look what has happened to their team...... Any time any club other than the El Classico's gets anywhere, the big boy vultures steam in pick the team apart. Same thing happened in Portugal with Porto. Small club (relatively speaking), win the CL, Chelsea steal their manager (Jose), their best defender (Carvlaho), their right back (Ferreira) , Barca steal their other star player (Deco)....
He was trying to downplay the fact that you're losing a World Class striker, by making out that you can 'create' another one. He's like the kopite Comical Ali please log in to view this image
Of course in a ideal world I'd prefer we kept Suarez. But he is going, so may as well at least speculate on how we should try and best fill the void. You think Firmino is a no go because of price? Or too similar positionally to Lallana/Coutinho etc? Think he'd be perfect for us, but don't see it as particularly likely.
Oh and Messi hasn't managed to scored past your bus in 7 meetings, and never managed to grab a goal against an italian side up until last season, against one of the worst Milan side in recent memory. Yet he's talked about as one of the best in the history of the game. Maybe they should rethink about that claim. You can look at ways to twist and turn stats to suit your agenda. But all that matters is Suarez scored a record number of goals in the league, winner of the European golden shoe, grabbed 12 assists. And one of the most creative players in Europe. It's only a matter of 'opinion' of where he fits in the top 3. I can understand why it's a bit hard for you to digest when I make such a claim. But pundits and players around the world surely agree.
Fermino's a no go because of a few reasons; we've not scouted him, there's interest from elsewhere and his club aren't looking to sell anyway. I know it's strange with Suarez and he probably does want to go, but the club only going to sell if his release clause is met. We have to sell him at that price. Unless Barca cough up, he's going nowhere and I don't see Barca paying that much money for him.
Been linked on and off since January, but nothing concrete. That said it's as much interest as there seems to be from any other club. Biggest stumbling block would be the new contract he signed earlier this year. Still think he could be brought in if the club decided to go in that direction but I wasn't really shouting out who I expect us to sign, more who I would like us to sign.
This is true,he ain't gone until he's gone. And Sanchez ain't happening so............................
If Liverpool didn't plan on selling Suarez what was the point in meeting Barca for 'productive talks' yesterday? I'm guessing no one met representatives from Arsenal last season so it's fair to say the club's stance on Suarez has changed. Hopefully they'll demand the release fee for him, but still believe eventually Barca will stump up the cash.
Porto sell their players every year. That's what they do, bring South American youngsters in then sell them on for a big price when they start performing to a good level and impress in the CL.
Has it been confirmed exactly what this release clause fee is? How much? I personally feel, the way its going, Liverpool will end up with between £65-70m for him.
