2014 Brazil World Cup Thread

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henry had one major incident in 15-20 years in the game. we are talking big, big, controversial incidents on a regular basis, often harming fellow professionals. suarez has had 10+ in about 5 years. laughable comparison!!

and you still haven't explained your bias towards suarez, because it is bias, clear and simple. i can only assume it is because of what he kept doing against city but that seems like the most stupid reason ever to back someone.

I have watched many games of live football in my life and I have followed Suarez career since his Ajax days! The Best player I have ever seen and it has been a privilege to watch him play! I was delighted when he chose to play for Liverpool and I will alway be a big supporter of Luiz Suarez. Genius like him do not come around very often and he has given me some great football experiences. End of!
 
Henry controlled the ball with his hand, and put in the cross which resulted in Gallas scoring the winner. Sure the ref should have caught it, but it's not punching the ball across/off the line. Henry's hand was in a natural position and the ball came to him quickly through two other players. Yes it shouldn't have counted, but it's nowhere near the same as the Suarez incidents.

its one incident of cheating. it was bad moment, that's for sure, but nobody can compare biting three people with a deliberate handball, no matter the circumstances. its laughable!
 
I have watched many games of live football in my life and I have followed Suarez career since his Ajax days! The Best player I have ever seen and it has been a privilege to watch him play! I was delighted when he chose to play for Liverpool and I will alway be a big supporter of Luiz Suarez. Genius like him do not come around very often and he has given me some great football experiences. End of!

Nice to see such a big fan puts the effort in to spell his name correctly....<whistle>

So where do you draw the line as a fan? Biting someone is apparently ok, what if you're an Oscar Pistorius fan?
 
I have watched many games of live football in my life and I have followed Suarez career since his Ajax days! The Best player I have ever seen and it has been a privilege to watch him play! I was delighted when he chose to play for Liverpool and I will alway be a big supporter of Luiz Suarez. Genius like him do not come around very often and he has given me some great football experiences. End of!

well i too have followed him since his groningen days :smiley-finger007: yet i use my eyes and brain to analyse what i'm watching and unfortunately, despite the clear genius he possesses, he's a total scumbag. he is everything that is bad about football. he blatantly cheats, he bites, he tries to cover incidents up, he no longer deserves anyones support. one incident, sure, benefit of the doubt should be given. two incidents, again, i'm all for rehabilitation, but this is going on and on and on. he's got a back catalogue of horrific incidents larger than his front nashers.

he should have been sacked by his club last season but they didn't have the balls (which i can understand when that sort of money is involved) but instead produced an unreal and hilarious campaign backing him, making them, a decent club, look like ****ing idiots. he's making mugs of everyone at liverpool and yet STILL people buy into it.

absolutely, unbelievably, stupid.
 
well i too have followed him since his groningen days :smiley-finger007: yet i use my eyes and brain to analyse what i'm watching and unfortunately, despite the clear genius he possesses, he's a total scumbag. he is everything that is bad about football. he blatantly cheats, he bites, he tries to cover incidents up, he no longer deserves anyones support. one incident, sure, benefit of the doubt should be given. two incidents, again, i'm all for rehabilitation, but this is going on and on and on. he's got a back catalogue of horrific incidents larger than his front nashers.

he should have been sacked by his club last season but they didn't have the balls (which i can understand when that sort of money is involved) but instead produced an unreal and hilarious campaign backing him, making them, a decent club, look like ****ing idiots. he's making mugs of everyone at liverpool and yet STILL people buy into it.

absolutely, unbelievably, stupid.


For a minute there you were describing Grant Holt! <ok>
 
Henry controlled the ball with his hand, and put in the cross which resulted in Gallas scoring the winner. Sure the ref should have caught it, but it's not punching the ball across/off the line. Henry's hand was in a natural position and the ball came to him quickly through two other players. Yes it shouldn't have counted, but it's nowhere near the same as the Suarez incidents.

A nice view of the incident from someone to whom the result meant little presumably.
 
Give it a rest JWM, even you must be fed up by now with continually showing yourself up! Look around you, who's springing to your defense? Even Guru is against you! <doh>

i have to say, i know warky chats ****e a lot, but this takes the biscuit. he must be having a giraffe because there is no way anybody of sane mind can argue his case without tongue firmly planted in cheek.
 
A nice view of the incident from someone to whom the result meant little presumably.

the connotations of that handball may well have effected a nation in terms of despondency, just as maradona's hand of god did with mine, but was it a vicious act? one intended to physically hurt an opponent? totally different circumstances and not comparable
 
the connotations of that handball may well have effected a nation in terms of despondency, just as maradona's hand of god did with mine, but was it a vicious act? one intended to physically hurt an opponent? totally different circumstances and not comparable

I wasn't comparing them though, was I.

I was merely responding to Warky's comment that everyone thinks Henry was a saint, and that one person, at least, disagrees with said comment. <ok>
 
maybe i didn't word it well but it was a general comment about why it is illogical to compare the two <ok>

Maybe not highlighting my quote would have helped! <laugh>

I wasn't really going to get involved in the Suarez debate. Like most people I thought it was despicable, and worthy of a lengthy ban.

I do think, though, that's it seems worse because the nature of the incident is so alien to us. I doubt any of us have encountered it whilst playing! Making such a fuss about it, in my view, belittles other savage acts like elbowing in the face or (often seemingly deliberately) attempting to break someone's leg.

Chiellini did manage to finish the game, wasn't stretchered off or left needing his cheekbone re-structured. Just saying, not condoning. <ok>
 
Maybe not highlighting my quote would have helped! <laugh>

I wasn't really going to get involved in the Suarez debate. Like most people I thought it was despicable, and worthy of a lengthy ban.

I do think, though, that's it seems worse because the nature of the incident is so alien to us. I doubt any of us have encountered it whilst playing! Making such a fuss about it, in my view, belittles other savage acts like elbowing in the face or (often seemingly deliberately) attempting to break someone's leg.

Chiellini did manage to finish the game, wasn't stretchered off or left needing his cheekbone re-structured. Just saying, not condoning. <ok>

ah - didn't realise i'd highlighted your quote! sorry.

lets not forget that biting is not just horrible and disgusting, its potentially dangerous - there are germs in the mouth that can cause infections that are hard to treat. suarez is making calculated decisions to bite people. nobody reacts like that on instinct - he knows what he is doing. leg breaking tackles are often a case of split-second decision making. there are exceptions of course but they normally end in lengthy bans too and quite rightly.
 
Maybe not highlighting my quote would have helped! <laugh>

I wasn't really going to get involved in the Suarez debate. Like most people I thought it was despicable, and worthy of a lengthy ban.

I do think, though, that's it seems worse because the nature of the incident is so alien to us. I doubt any of us have encountered it whilst playing! Making such a fuss about it, in my view, belittles other savage acts like elbowing in the face or (often seemingly deliberately) attempting to break someone's leg.

Chiellini did manage to finish the game, wasn't stretchered off or left needing his cheekbone re-structured. Just saying, not condoning. <ok>

A great post Gandy
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ah - didn't realise i'd highlighted your quote! sorry.

lets not forget that biting is not just horrible and disgusting, its potentially dangerous - there are germs in the mouth that can cause infections that are hard to treat. suarez is making calculated decisions to bite people. nobody reacts like that on instinct - he knows what he is doing. leg breaking tackles are often a case of split-second decision making. there are exceptions of course but they normally end in lengthy bans too and quite rightly.

So Rooney's elbow into the face of McCarthy was just the result of a split second decision then!