Thierry Henry

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Murray said:
That's like saying "crime is crime". There's degrees of seriousness. Doing a Zidane is obviously a more serious foul than accidentally going in late on someone.
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No sh*t. You seemed to be trying to class things as fouls rather than cheating, I was merely saying it's still cheating. Obviously some actions are worse than others and what Henry did was a yellow card offence at worst. As I said, I feel some people are only upset because it was so blatant (and I too judge him for being not being a little more subtle) and because it had such repurcussions. Probably a few have sympathy for the Irish too. Meh.
 
Murray said:
Blatant cheating is blatant cheating. End of.
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As I said, the rest of the world, and heck, most of Britain included, have moved on, nobody is going to remember Henry as a cheat, nor has his legacy been tarnished in the least, dream on. Even the Spurs fans don't bring that rubbish up to try and tarnish the legend.
 
Arsenal87 said:
As I said, the rest of the world, and heck, most of Britain included, have moved on, nobody is going to remember Henry as a cheat, nor has his legacy been tarnished in the least, dream on. Even the Spurs fans don't bring that rubbish up to try and tarnish the legend.
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To a lot of people his legacy has been tarnished.The Irish will never forgive Henry,the English will never forgive Maradonna and the Welsh will never forgive Joe Jordan
 
When it comes to this kind of thing, I think fans are a bit hypocritical.

I mean if a defender gets away with a bit of shirt-pulling to deny a goal, is that going to tarnish their legacy?

The real problem is that the referee(s) didn't spot it. I don't hold it against Maradonna for his goal. I'm sure he got called for fouls that were legitimate tackles in his time, and wasn't awarded penalties he deserved. So he got away with one here. **** happens!
 
Henry's handball isn't in the same class as maradonna. It was a yellow card offense and only got the attention it did due to it resulting in Ireland going out.

As soon as he did it he obviously felt bad. He admitted it and even said he thought the game should be replayed.

Henry will be remembered as a great football player both at club and international level. A group of bitter Irish people hanging on to that annoyance isn't going to tarnish his reputation amongst the vast majority of football fans.
 
goonercymraeg said:
To a lot of people his legacy has been tarnished.The Irish will never forgive Henry,the English will never forgive Maradonna and the Welsh will never forgive Joe Jordan
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I'll break down my response for each country.

Meh.

I don't care so that's one Englishman who's alright with Maradonna.

The Welsh play football?
 
That's just how football is. We like to bring up Rooney's dive to end our unbeaten run or Babel's to knock us out of champions league but we see worse dives from our own players all the time
 
afcftw said:
Henry's handball isn't in the same class as maradonna. It was a yellow card offense and only got the attention it did due to it resulting in Ireland going out.

As soon as he did it he obviously felt bad. He admitted it and even said he thought the game should be replayed.

Henry will be remembered as a great football player both at club and international level. A group of bitter Irish people hanging on to that annoyance isn't going to tarnish his reputation amongst the vast majority of football fans.
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You say that ... but this is the thread about Henry. Talking about his handball. It was even brought up in the OP. It was even brought up when he was on MOTD.

This is now part of his legacy.
 
Murray said:
You say that ... but this is the thread about Henry. Talking about his handball. It was even brought up in the OP. It was even brought up when he was on MOTD.

This is now part of his legacy.
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The op mentions that the Irish don't like him. Then you seem up in arms about it, Irish much?

I've said the bitter Irish will hate him, but the rest of the world won't care...

And linker making a joke on motd is banter, not some slight on Henry's career.
 
afcftw said:
Henry's handball isn't in the same class as maradonna. It was a yellow card offense and only got the attention it did due to it resulting in Ireland going out.

As soon as he did it he obviously felt bad. He admitted it and even said he thought the game should be replayed.

Henry will be remembered as a great football player both at club and international level. A group of bitter Irish people hanging on to that annoyance isn't going to tarnish his reputation amongst the vast majority of football fans.
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Henry's handball is certainly in the same class as Maradonna's to the Irish.You may talk about bitter Irish people but the English are still bitter about Maradonna nearly 30 years later and I'm still ****ing bitter about Joe Jordan nearly 40 years later
 
goonercymraeg said:
Henry's handball is certainly in the same class as Maradonna's to the Irish.You may talk about bitter Irish people but the English are still bitter about Maradonna nearly 30 years later and I'm still f**king bitter about Joe Jordan nearly 40 years later
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Maradonna used his hand to put the ball into the net from above his head, Henry used his hand to control the ball at waist height. It was his cross and then gallas head that resulted in the goal, not the handball directly.

Edit: and even though a load of bitter English people hold onto that annoyance at maradonna he is still remembered as one of if not the greatest football player ever. And most fans round the world probably don't think of that handball when they think of him.
 
afcftw said:
Maradonna used his hand to put the ball into the net from above his head, Henry used his hand to control the ball at waist height. It was his cross and then gallas head that resulted in the goal, not the handball directly.

Edit: and even though a load of bitter English people hold onto that annoyance at maradonna he is still remembered as one of if not the greatest football player ever. And most fans round the world probably don't think of that handball when they think of him.
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How many times have you seen Maradonna's handball being replayed on TV during the past few weeks ?
 
goonercymraeg said:
How many times have you seen Maradonna's handball being replayed on TV during the past few weeks ?
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Not a single time. Because I'm travelling round Europe and they don't give a ****. Like I said, people from one nation being bitter about an incident doesn't stop the rest of the world appreciating them. And overall there reputation isn't judged on the single controversial event.
 
afcftw said:
Not a single time. Because I'm travelling round Europe and they don't give a ****. Like I said, people from one nation being bitter about an incident doesn't stop the rest of the world appreciating them. And overall there reputation isn't judged on the single controversial event.
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Where's my ****ing postcard and I hope you've got me the duty free ***s you promised <grr>
 
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