Sunderland finish the season with averaging 41,068 & the last 3 home games against Cardiff, west brom & Swansea we got over 45,000 each game.
If we not well support than **** knows what club like you are.
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Sunderland finish the season with averaging 41,068 & the last 3 home games against Cardiff, west brom & Swansea we got over 45,000 each game.
If we not well support than **** knows what club like you are.
No it doesnt, nowhere ****ing near. Youve got a population twice that of Norwich, you dont get twice their attendance. On this thread Ive posted an artcile FROM YOUR LOCAL PAPER saying that for the first time in decades Newcastle now has a higher population than Sunderland, yet they get consistantly higher attendances. Burnley and Blackburn (when they were in the EPL) are also far higher percentage wise.
But other than that, good point.
Someone said it on the Sunderland board & I think Talksport did something on it months ago. I maybe wrong tho.
It was about the prem teams so that wouldn't include Burnley or wigan pal.
Lot's of Newcastle support doesn't come from Newcastle tho. most of Sunderland support does.
Looks like it. I think there's a few others up there too, they were just the ones off the top of my head.
I only did a rough count though, so could be wrong too.
What''s that got to do with it? That's not what this stat talks about at all. Barrel and ****ing scraped come to mind.
Really? In the old days most of the arrests in our local paper after a game against Sunderland were from Chester Le Street and Durham.
Norwich is 20.3% anyway so still miles ****ing better.
How about West Bromwich? Population 91,930 (2011 Census), average attendance, 25,914 = 28.19%. Of course, it's not just the population of the actual city/town/whatever but the catchment area. Which for Sunderland is a good proportion of South Tyneside & County Durham as well as the city itself (similarly us and The East Riding).
The Liverpool FA Cup game was in the 80's and the ground capacity was set at 22,000. I know because I had it out with the person responsible for making the decision. I remember the eggchasing international but I doubt if the crowd was 28,000. They got a decent crowd once there v Oz when the North Stand was still in use.
I have only missed about four or five away games since we have been in the Premiership and to be honest I have been quite impressed with our away support. We certainly take far more to Sunderland then we used to before we were a Premiership club.
My point is that attending a City home game now isn't as simple as it used to be because of the ticketing arrangements. You cannot now just decide on the morning of a match to go, and if you do with friends who were already going, you cannot sit with them. I think that is a big factor. I also think the capacity of the KC today is about 5,000 too short, 10,000 if we remain in the PL for a decent stint.
City's crowds did tail off towards the end of the 70/71 season, then we had a generation, if not more, when everything possible was done to deter people attending football in this city, and we couldn't handle a decent crowd if we got the opportunity of attracting one because of the reduced capacity and it did happen on a few occasions. But on the bright side we haven't had a crowd under 16,000 for a league game since we moved to the KC.
The world was a different place in the 70's. We didn't expect all seater stadiums, segregation, the cost spiralling, games shown live in pubs within walking distance of the ground, and highlights all over the television of every game, and we didn't know that our club would bob about at the foot of the Football League for the next 30 years. Also everyone we knew in the 70's had a job and that cannot be said today.
We certainly lost a lot of our potential support to other clubs with the opening of the M62 and we lost a couple of generations, possibly forever, because the club seemed to have a death wish about them.
If anything hasn't lived up to my expectations it is the size of the club. We were brought up under Harold Needlers leadership, a proper Hull City fan himself who saw making a profit as an added bonus of the club doing well and not the main reason for taking control.
Needler had visions of a 80,000 capacity Boothferry Park.
I just wish the current owners, and all those before them shared Harold Needlers vision and love for the club.
We should be selling out every week as a Premiership club with a waiting list for season tickets. I put that down to poor marketing and a complete lack of understanding from within the club on how a successful football club is run off the pitch. The club lacks heart and anyone within the ranks who really knows how a football club of our size clicks.
Having said that I've just enjoyed the best season of my life watching them. I only wish we were all as one from the terraces to the Board Room and I don't sense that same bond. Other clubs manage it, we had it under Adam Pearson and before him Don Robinson, it is like driving with the handbrake on down a one way street.................waiting for the inevitable.............
I was slightly out with the crowd but I quote from the history of Boothferry Park "Boothferry Park was also the scene of a rugby league international when it hosted the first Ashes series test of the 1982 Kangaroo tour between Great Britain and Australia on 30 October. The Aussies ran in eight tries to nil in a 40-4 thrashing watched by a vocal crowd of 26,771." The North Stand had come down by then. If I remember right there was still a crowd of 32,000 allowed when the North Stand. Bit by bit it came down. The final straw and what lead to it being even lower by 1989 when we played Liverpool was the stress tests showed the crush barriers in the corners at each end of the
East Stand were not safe, and hadn't been from the start due the unique way they had been built. Although after we had not being allowed to stand there for some time the police did allow Leeds fans in rather than have to try and deal with them roaming about outside.
And I was slightly out with my guess about the Liverpool FA Cup capacity, it was set at just over 20,000, not 22,000.
There was never a crowd over 30,000 for any rugby league played in Hull, at either ground or the at the far superior Boothferry Park.
The East Stand terracing was built on hardcore collected from bombed buildings in Hull during WW2. I think some foundry ash was used too and this is why the terracing was slipping and deemed unsafe. How they managed at the old boulevard is beyond me because all they had at each end of the ground was half a dozen rows of concrete terracing and the rest was just mud and grass.
The man responsible for ground safety certificates in 1989 was David Price who worked for Humberside CC. He told me the East Stand was a fire hazard, a strange reason to shut two thirds of it down when he allowed Grimsby Town's main stand to remain open, and that was made of wood.
It does seem that in the haste to build Boothferry Park after the war a lot of the foundations for the terracing left a lot to be desired.
The excuse given to demolish the North Stand was a puzzling one. As it was one of the newest stands in the Football League, only being completed in the mid 50's. When the Stand came down so did any hopes we had of City ever becoming a 'big club'
We went from a capacity of 40,000 (if the terracing had of been repaired) to eventually one of 10,000.
There was never a crowd over 30,000 for any rugby league played in Hull, at either ground or the at the far superior Boothferry Park.
The East Stand terracing was built on hardcore collected from bombed buildings in Hull during WW2. I think some foundry ash was used too and this is why the terracing was slipping and deemed unsafe. How they managed at the old boulevard is beyond me because all they had at each end of the ground was half a dozen rows of concrete terracing and the rest was just mud and grass.
The man responsible for ground safety certificates in 1989 was David Price who worked for Humberside CC. He told me the East Stand was a fire hazard, a strange reason to shut two thirds of it down when he allowed Grimsby Town's main stand to remain open, and that was made of wood.
It does seem that in the haste to build Boothferry Park after the war a lot of the foundations for the terracing left a lot to be desired.
The excuse given to demolish the North Stand was a puzzling one. As it was one of the newest stands in the Football League, only being completed in the mid 50's. When the Stand came down so did any hopes we had of City ever becoming a 'big club'
We went from a capacity of 40,000 (if the terracing had of been repaired) to eventually one of 10,000.
The article is wrong anyway fella. Our average attendance was 41,272. Our capacity is 49,000. putting the percentage at 84.2% instead of the 81.9% stated in the Article. Have any of you guys checked these figures against the attendances on your official site? Poor article and poor maths, if Sunderland's is wrong than every team's probably is.
Quite true about rugby league and it never getting over 30,000.There seems to be an upper limit of about 27,000 for their games. The record at the Boulevard was about that amount (God knows how they got that many in), the record crowd for the FC v Rovers derby was around 27,000 set at BP, the floodlit final and the international against Australia were the same as well.
One of the problems we had was that apparently the terracing was constructed in a unique way with a lip on it and the crush barriers were just placed on top and not anchored properly. Though huge crowds didn't seem to cause any problems yet all of a sudden it was a problem.
I always thought the same about the North Stand. Funny how certain people, their families and others were interlinked as regards supermarkets if I recall correctly.
That Liverpool game there was one of the loudest roars to greet City I have ever heard. Far louder than much larger crowds we have had.