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ProjectVRD said:
All those games delivering **** all and never looking to improve and you think it was worthwhile?!
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How do you know he was never looking to improve? In my opinion that is a stupid thing to say. How do you know how much work he was putting in? Were you there every day in training? You don't know, so why make these ridiculous allegations? Oh right, you saw him play so you made a few assumptions and you know what they say about those. <doh>

Have you got a degree in hindsight? We can all be clever arses AFTER the event!!! Quite obviously I was referring to his track record BEFORE he joined us and 14 goals in 24 games for the Spanish "junior" sides was a terrific return by anyone's standards. With that record, in my opinion, it was a worthwhile gamble. Understand what I'm saying? It was a worthwhile gamble. I didn't say his time with us was worthwhile, obviously it wasn't and, as I said in my closing sentence, "shame it didn't pay off". It's all there if you take the trouble to read it properly.
 
roofjack_22 said:
Like I say , when your stuck in debate , you say the same **** , . What Laudrup was able to get out of Routledge , that Rodgers and every other manager Wayne had couldn't , speaks volumes to Laudrups ability to spot talent , it's just a fact .
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Pot, Kettle, Black.

You've been harping on about Laudrups sacking since the hour it happened. A little longer and a half of all Google search returns for the word will apply to your posts.
 
ivoralljack said:
How do you know he was never looking to improve? In my opinion that is a stupid thing to say. How do you know how much work he was putting in? Were you there every day in training? You don't know, so why make these ridiculous allegations? Oh right, you saw him play so you made a few assumptions and you know what they say about those. <doh>

Have you got a degree in hindsight? We can all be clever arses AFTER the event!!! Quite obviously I was referring to his track record BEFORE he joined us and 14 goals in 24 games for the Spanish "junior" sides was a terrific return by anyone's standards. With that record, in my opinion, it was a worthwhile gamble. Understand what I'm saying? It was a worthwhile gamble. I didn't say his time with us was worthwhile, obviously it wasn't and, as I said in my closing sentence, "shame it didn't pay off". It's all there if you take the trouble to read it properly.
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In my opinion I simply wrote it down wrong as I meant to say never looked like improving.
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
Here we go again. Poor performance,hmm. You sound like Dai.

Laudrup oversaw the highest P.L. finish - 9th.
Monk took us to our lowest finish - 12th.
Laudrup oversaw the team winning The Capital One Cup,
Monk hasn't emulated that. Of course,he may,but it's already in Laudrup' C.V.
Laudrup oversaw the team go on a successful European journey.
Monk has been to Europe,on holiday!
Laudrup signed some top class players'.
Monk hasn't signed any. He may,of course,but as of now ,that cupboard is empty.

Poor performance - my ass!
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After the cup win we were diabolical. Clubs show no loyalty to a manager when his performance is a crock of ****, do hang on to glories past is not a way to run a club. He was terrible for 38 games, a whole seasons worth of matches. We needed a new manager to pick up where Laudrup started to fail.
 
All I said was laudrup did a great job with Routledge and then you went off on your ungratefulness , like usual , toward Laudrup .Look on the bright side though , you r not the only one with the ungratefull trait .
 
I'm grateful for the first 7 months and thankful the last 12 months ended when it did, in February. Had ML stayed I'm pretty sure we'd have got relegated and disintegrated as a club. ML would have left and we'd be dumped in the championship.

This is all conjecture of course, but that's what I think would have happened if ML had stayed.
 
campionijack said:
I'm grateful for the first 7 months and thankful the last 12 months ended when it did, in February. Had ML stayed I'm pretty sure we'd have got relegated and disintegrated as a club. ML would have left and we'd be dumped in the championship.

This is all conjecture of course, but that's what I think would have happened if ML had stayed.
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I am not sure we would have gone down. I think we had enough quality in the squad to have picked up the odd win here or there. Which is exactly what GM has done.
 
I don't want to stifle debate at all, it's what forums are all about. But am I the only one amazed that the Monk v Laudrup debate is still raging here? Knock yourself out guys but it's done whether we like it or not and it's now up to us to get behind the new Manager and hope that some of us are wrong about his appointment. I'l be first in the queue to say I was wrong if he does the business.

But you do realise that we'll have to tell Daiswan he was right. <laugh>
 
ProjectVRD said:
After the cup win we were diabolical. Clubs show no loyalty to a manager when his performance is a crock of ****, do hang on to glories past is not a way to run a club. He was terrible for 38 games, a whole seasons worth of matches. We needed a new manager to pick up where Laudrup started to fail.
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Just after he was sacked I posted to say that it hadn't surprised me. However,what DID surprise,and disappoint me, was the way the Club had gone about it. I used the word "shabby" to describe it. I stick by that,they behaved shabbily.

What depresses me most about the whole affair,is the gratuitous insults and abuse that some display towards Laudrup.
Also a total lack of appreciation for ANYTHING that he achieved during his tenure.
It's Martinez,and Rodgers all over again.
Michael Laudrup was a great man when he came here,and he was still that when he left.
Nothing any of his detractor's can say/write will alter that.
He is a man of great integrity,and Swansea City were extremely fortunate that he took up the managerial role at the Club.
Many thought he was too good for the Club,and I can see some justification in that remark having been made.

History, hopefully,will be a lot kinder to Michael Laudrup than his most vociferous critics here have been,and are still being.
 
Dragonborn said:
I don't want to stifle debate at all, it's what forums are all about. But am I the only one amazed that the Monk v Laudrup debate is still raging here? Knock yourself out guys but it's done whether we like it or not and it's now up to us to get behind the new Manager and hope that some of us are wrong about his appointment. I'l be first in the queue to say I was wrong if he does the business.

But you do realise that we'll have to tell Daiswan he was right. <laugh>
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Not going to happen,Dragon.

If/when Monk falls on his face,Dai will turn up shouting "I told you so". <laugh>
 
Dragonborn said:
I don't want to stifle debate at all, it's what forums are all about. But am I the only one amazed that the Monk v Laudrup debate is still raging here? Knock yourself out guys but it's done whether we like it or not and it's now up to us to get behind the new Manager and hope that some of us are wrong about his appointment. I'l be first in the queue to say I was wrong if he does the business.

But you do realise that we'll have to tell Daiswan he was right. <laugh>
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I've said time and time again that I've had a titful of the debate, but I still end up getting back into it <laugh>
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
Just after he was sacked I posted to say that it hadn't surprised me. However,what DID surprise,and disappoint me, was the way the Club had gone about it. I used the word "shabby" to describe it. I stick by that,they behaved shabbily.

What depresses me most about the whole affair,is the gratuitous insults and abuse that some display towards Laudrup.
Also a total lack of appreciation for ANYTHING that he achieved during his tenure.
It's Martinez,and Rodgers all over again.
Michael Laudrup was a great man when he came here,and he was still that when he left.
Nothing any of his detractor's can say/write will alter that.
He is a man of great integrity,and Swansea City were extremely fortunate that he took up the managerial role at the Club.
Many thought he was too good for the Club,and I can see some justification in that remark having been made.

History, hopefully,will be a lot kinder to Michael Laudrup than his most vociferous critics here have been,and are still being.
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Nicely put Vetch <ok>
 
I can't even give credit for what Laudrup did for Routledge without him or me being attacked .Someone said Rory didnt get a chance as a Rodgers transfer . All I said neither did Routledge till Laudrup molded him perfectly . I dont hate Monk , but a lot of people hate Laudrup , no matter what he did for us , pitiful really .
 
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