Mate I believe you.....but try to be mindful that if you mention anything re: Unruly fans in regard to Liverpool, they are going to call Hillsborough. You know they will
Mmmm, dont agree with that tbh. You think we jump on it for the sake of it?
Read this link
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/hillsborough-documents-released-brian-reade-1318730
This is a section taken from it
"Tony Edwards, the only professional ambulanceman to reach the Leppings Lane end, recalled what happened outside the ground. He said: " A policeman came to my window and said, ' You can't go on the pitch, they 're still fighting'."
He went on nonetheless, but his job was made impossible by the scale of the casualties.
The memory of bodies being piled on to his ambulance, of people pleading with him to take their friends and loved ones, of the anarchy that made his job impossible, haunts him to this day.
But what haunts him most is the knowledge that he was the only paramedic trying to help. He said: "There were 42 ambulances, including mine, waiting outside the stadium. That means 80- odd trained staff could have been inside the ground. They weren't allowed in because they were told there was fighting.
"But there was no fighting. The survivors were deciding who was the priority, who we should deal with. The police weren't. We weren't . Can you imagine a rail accident where all the ambulances wait on the embankment while survivors bring the casualties up?"
Of the 94 who died that day ( 14-year-old Lee Nicol died four days later and 18-year-old Tony Bland had his life support machine turned off in March 1993) only 14 made it to hospital.
Trevor Hicks was one of the few who got a loved one into Tony Edwards' ambulance. He was trying to resuscitate his 19- year- old daughter Sarah when he spotted her 15- year- old sister Victoria being placed into the ambulance.
Too little, too late: An ambulance makes it way onto the pitch
Trevor tried to push Sarah in alongside her but the bodies were piled high and he had to lay her back on the pitch.
He said: " The ambulance started to move away. I saw the door close and I had to make a decision in that split-second. I thought 'the fella with Sarah knows what he's doing, I'll leave her with him and another ambulance will be along in a minute'."
Another one never came and both of his girls died. Trevor, now 63, added: "In the ambulance, I was sucking the vomit from Vicky's throat. I couldn't get rid of that taste for six months.
"A psychiatrist said I was either trying to hang on to the last contact with my daughters or it was guilt - I was punishing myself for not saving them.
"The hurt I suffered that day was so extreme I can't be hurt any more."
Outside the ground as we devastated fans made our way home grief turned to rage when word spread that we were being blamed for the disaster.
The FA's Chief Executive Graham Kelly, told the media that the policeman in charge, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, had accused us of kicking down an exit gate and flooding the terraces.
Duckenfield, in charge of his first big football match had given the order to open the gate without ensuring the thousands who entered Leppings Lane would be funnelled into the outside pens.
He had seen the over- crowding and suffering on the terraces on CCTV cameras with zoom facilities and done nothing. And when asked for an explanation he mouthed something he believed outsiders would buy."
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How sad is the bold bit, its truley beyond anything you or I could imagine and these digs are putting me off the site. I dont mean just this page, I mean the entire place
There were plenty of posters thought he meant that though. Only he knows though obv
But then to be followed up by this
True mate, outraged by everything, guilty of nothing.
your board would be the laughing stock of the forum
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