The 2014 2000 Gns

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Ron said:
Brilliant horse Zafonic. The commentator reading the prices sounded like the late Julian Wilson.
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Ron,I'm 99.9% sure that it's the voice of Raleigh Gilbert shouting the odds.

Pretty sure JW worked exclusively for the BBC during his career in front of the camera.
 
Just watched Kingman's Greenham win again. That horse is a monster, and the performance was breathtaking, exhilarating, awesome, <insert superlative here>. On the other hand, did he beat trees? Will he bounce? Will the ground be his undoing? Will he stay? Or is all this irrelevant because Australia really is the best thing since, well, the last Ballydoyle good thing? Will the son of Galileo and Ouija Board run more like a Derby winner? Or will having the best jockey in the world on the second string prove decisive for War Command, evoking memories of the day Rock of Gibraltar nutted Hawkwing under the post? Will it turn out to be a gift from the bookies, allowing The Craven winner and champion 2y old to go off at 8s or even 9s under the champion jockey?

By four O'clock we'll know.

Is it all about one horse? Of course it is. We just don't know which one yet. Let's get on with it.
 
Kingman may be the next superstar but until he proves it today I'm going for the proven one and that is (as stated earlier) Toormore, with War Command as the danger. If anyone wants to place any doubts as to whether this is a cakewalk for Kingman, have a read of this on Toormore.

"He clocked a very good time in the Craven, a time that was good enough to win 132 of 135 renewals of the 2000 Guineas. Two of the faster times were on good to firm ground and the other one was Zafonic's win in 1993."

9/1 available. Madness. Get on ew.



PS 10/1 available with Betway
 
Anyone want to have a say on the quality of the Guineas today? I've been wondering about it. I don't know my arse from my elbow, but it looks pretty decent to me. The more I look at the field, the more chances seem to pop up. Obviously Kingman and Australia look the better chances, but there are a host of others who have some sort of shot at it. I suppose a lot will depend on the pace of the race. Will they get along at a decent clip, or will the race be run at a moderate pace early on? Unless they go like a bat out of hell, I think Kingman should be too good for Australia, he seems to have a better turn of foot. But if the pace is a cracker, we could see a real turn up for the books. Any number of horses could spring a surprise. One that looks like it might love a solid pace is Outstrip, the winner of the Breeder's Juvenile. In the clip below, it shows the field getting along at a torrid pace, which allowed Outstrip to finish like a train. This is a massive step up, but i"d love to see him run a nice race. He's the grey horse with the dark blue colours. He drifts right back, but come home hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlrwhcbi2WU
 
Interesting comment Mick. If Frankel is a great sire he will be breaking the mold of 2000G winners.

Last 2000G winner by a winner was Rodrigo de Triano by el Gran senor, by my reckoning.
 
stick said:
I really like NIGHT OF THUNDER for this and have backed him at 20-1. How he was three times the price of his stablemate was beyond me. He showed plenty of dash for a juvenile with such a stout pedigree and I would be very confident that he would have improved from two to three!
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Not all bollocks RONALDO
 
Well done stick
Kingman got outstayed in the 8th furlong by a horse he had beaten well at Newbury
Australia must now be a warm favourite for the Derby
 
OddDog said:
Well done stick
Kingman got outstayed in the 8th furlong by a horse he had beaten well at Newbury
Australia must now be a warm favourite for the Derby
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Yes indeed, well done that man, 40/1 skinner for the rest of us.
I think your right about Australia, get on early OddDog.
 
I made the point yesterday that Kingman was too short for a horse that has never run over the distance and that was proved to be a fair shout with regard the guineas today. So what happens next is they make Australia favourite for the Derby, a race run a full four furlongs further than he has ever run over. There is no other race in the calendar for which commentators would persistently quote a race a full four furlongs shorter as the best trial for the longer race.
 
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