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LIBERTARIAN said:
I don't know about you,Valley,but this Laudrup/Monk nonsense is doing my head in.

Where do people get the time to plow through all the records and produce reams of pointless facts and figures? And they expect us to read and make some sense of it all.

The BOTTOM LINE is, that despite the recent upheavals and shenanigans,we are all still Swansea City supporters,following them through thick and thin,good times and bad.

That won't change,regardless of who is the Manager.

P.S. Any truth to the rumour that Monk is planning on re-signing Sheckter for next season. <laugh><laugh><laugh>
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Agree Vetch the Laudrup v Monk debate is getting on my tits, but the positive thing is at least the board is arguing over a footballing matter so I can put up with it as it's better than the pre Laudrup sacking normality of people arguing with each other over none football related issues <ok>
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
Agree Vetch the Laudrup v Monk debate is getting on my tits, but the positive thing is at least the board is arguing over a footballing matter so I can put up with it as it's better than the pre Laudrup sacking normality of people arguing with each other over none football related issues <ok>
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<peacedove>.
 
Stumpy said:
Bit of a leap there Libertarian, and, imho, condescending and incorrect.

The bile and hate apparent here appears to be aimed at Monk and or the board. Others are responding to the unsubstantiated abuse aimed at them and therefor our club.

No one can say anything good about the board, Monk, our survival, next season, without a splatter ball of abuse and bile from a chosen few, who do appear to be in the Laudrup camp.

I have asked for facts, even deductive reasoning, but all that emanates is more bile and abuse.

Currently no one can congratulate Monk for successfully fulfilling his remit of keeping us up, without receiving abuse.

No one can congratulate the players for keeping us up without an in depth attack on Monk for not playing Pazuello, Canas, Michu, or the board being blamed for Ki playing for Sunderland.

They played no part in our survival, so why bring them up. Pozuallo, initially promising but ultimately disappointing, Canas, initially promising but ultimately lightweight and fourth in a list including Britton, Shelvey, De Guzman. Michu, absent, petulant, pointless all season, Ki, bench at best, so what is the point being made regarding them. That Monk picked the best team to get us through an incredibly stressful and difficult time, that's what I think.

Instead of gloating over Cardiffs demise, instead of debating about summer signings, instead of being happy to be where we are, instead of looking forward to next season, our 4th in the best league in the world by the way, some appear to prefer to forget and paint is a bleak, Russian-esque landscape of impending failure and depression.

Some, it would seem, don't want any of us to feel good about our club. I do, next season Prem football again and I feel good about that.

What I think about Laudrup is this..........nothing, same about Martinez, same about Rodgers. Once they were here, now they're gone. We moved on before and its time to move on now and definitely time to look forward to our continued odyssey in the premiership, I am, I happy.
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Great post this, well stated stumpy, this Laudrup v Monk debate is knackered if you ask me, I think that some Jacks can regurgitate better than a farmyard cow!..................<laugh>
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
So,to summarise,since many feel that Monk is a vast improvement on Laudrup,next season should be a bumper one.

Monk should be able to at least emulate the achievements of Laudrup,i.e.,top ten finish, and the securing of a major Cup.

The following season he can then take us into Europe and the latter stages of a European tournament.

Anything LESS than the above and the knives will be out.

P.S. He will also need to bring in a bargain a la Michu. <laugh>
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Not so Libertarian, no one has said that Monk is a 'vast improvement on Laudrup' have they?

Some have dared to defend him against petty, childish abuse and unfounded allegations, but none has said he's better than anyone; even though he has done a decent job under trying circumstances. I too think Monk has done very well since Laudrups sacking, but I do not compare or contrast the two.

Monk has achieved all he could achieve in his short time, with his limited experience, but he has avoided relegation; the same relegation we appeared to be heading for in Laudrup's reign.

All the bitching from Laudrup supporters suggests annoyance with Monk's success but all he has done is give his best, and we survived, so what's the problem?

Admittedly, if Laudrup stayed we may not have been relegated either but I doubt we'd have any more points than now, or be in any better a position.

If Laudrup had stayed and we survived would anyone be screaming for him to emulate previous successes? I doubt it.

What is apparent from the recent plague of posts, and this is purely my opinion based on the torrent of bile puked on this forum recently, is that a small minority of aerosols seem furious with Monk for daring to be half decent. The fact that he is, and that he has saved our club from relegation renders their pro Laudrup arguments mute and its annoyed the hell out of them. It does makes me laugh though.

Oh and regarding Michu, he's shown his true value this year hasn't he?
 
Laudrup was ready to unleach HIS healthy team on all 3 competitions , when the knives came out and fans were cheated to a roller coaster ride of a 2nd half . Most will line up holding Monks flag while walking over Laudrup like he never existed while some know we could have had a great 2nd half instead of 3 and out of both cups and a rough relegation ride with a healthy but confused team .There should be an inquiry to the boards behavior when January turned to Febuary , the perticulars with Laudrups agent , the interference toward the manager transfering , the line up for the FA CUP game against Everton.
 
Stumpy said:
Not so Libertarian, no one has said that Monk is a 'vast improvement on Laudrup' have they?

Some have dared to defend him against petty, childish abuse and unfounded allegations, but none has said he's better than anyone; even though he has done a decent job under trying circumstances. I too think Monk has done very well since Laudrups sacking, but I do not compare or contrast the two.

Monk has achieved all he could achieve in his short time, with his limited experience, but he has avoided relegation; the same relegation we appeared to be heading for in Laudrup's reign.

All the bitching from Laudrup supporters suggests annoyance with Monk's success but all he has done is give his best, and we survived, so what's the problem?

Admittedly, if Laudrup stayed we may not have been relegated either but I doubt we'd have any more points than now, or be in any better a position.

If Laudrup had stayed and we survived would anyone be screaming for him to emulate previous successes? I doubt it.

What is apparent from the recent plague of posts, and this is purely my opinion based on the torrent of bile puked on this forum recently, is that a small minority of aerosols seem furious with Monk for daring to be half decent. The fact that he is, and that he has saved our club from relegation renders their pro Laudrup arguments mute and its annoyed the hell out of them. It does makes me laugh though.

Oh and regarding Michu, he's shown his true value this year hasn't he?
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You need to go no further than Dai's posts to see that Monk is the best thing to ever happen to the Club.
There has been a constant stream of negativity towards Laudrup,not to mention "unfounded allegations".
I'm not knocking Monk,and he has done as well as could be hoped
So,it sounds to me that you seem to have missed all the "bitching" against Laudrup.
I don't know where all this "torrent of bile puked on this forum"against Monk comes from.
I note with great interest that you make a very snide comment re Michu,who has been plagued with injury.
Your entire post is regrettable,but no doubt some of the Laudrup haters will ring your praises. I won't,however.
 
Stumpy said:
Some have dared to defend him against petty, childish abuse - Think that's what was happening to Laudrup first and some chose to defend him...don't recall you spewing this bollocks when Dai, Dragon and others were sticking it into Laudrup though. Principles eh.

...and unfounded allegations, - Again, that was first done to Laudrup. Where were you?

but none has said he's better than anyone; even though he has done a decent job under trying circumstances. - Actually there are a couple on this very thread that state we would have gone down under Laudrup...ergo. AND WHAT ABOUT DAI!?!?

I too think Monk has done very well since Laudrups sacking, but I do not compare or contrast the two. - but you condemn anyone sticking up for Laudrup's record and condone those blowing smoke up Monk's arse....despite those you condemn actually bothering to use F A C T S.

Monk has achieved all he could achieve in his short time, with his limited experience, but he has avoided relegation; the same relegation we appeared to be heading for in Laudrup's reign. - There you go you see, YOU are comparing and contrasting the 2 and have decided Laudrup would have done worse. Therefore you are saying that Monk is a better manager <doh> what do you mean "appeared"?! What does that mean. Perhaps you should take the time to read through Swanselona's stats...their records are virtually indistinguishable. Despite all of Monk's advantages!

All the bitching from Laudrup supporters suggests annoyance with Monk's success but all he has done is give his best, and we survived, so what's the problem? - 90 % of it is responses to all the lies shat out daily by DaiSwan

Admittedly, if Laudrup stayed we may not have been relegated either but I doubt we'd have any more points than now, or be in any better a position. - What?!? SO WHY DID WE TAKE A DECISION THAT'LL COST US MILLIONS OF POUNDS THEN?

If Laudrup had stayed and we survived would anyone be screaming for him to emulate previous successes? I doubt it. - Nobody was demanding Monk emulate his successes. People are just responding to those who deny them and claim "Monk's achieved more". ****ing prove it.

What is apparent from the recent plague of posts, and this is purely my opinion based on the torrent of bile puked on this forum recently, is that a small minority of aerosols seem furious with Monk for daring to be half decent. The fact that he is, and that he has saved our club from relegation renders their pro Laudrup arguments mute and its annoyed the hell out of them. It does makes me laugh though. - Those in the pro Laudrup camp never suspected we would be in a relegation battle until Monk took over you aerosol <laugh>

Oh and regarding Michu, he's shown his true value this year hasn't he? - Not really. Because he's been I N J U R E D. What's Michael Schumacher done lately? He's ****ing ****e him....that's your ****ing level.
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I see we are getting awash with the Laudrup sycophants? get over him girls, your like bloody washer women over the garden fence!..................<laugh>
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
You need to go no further than Dai's posts to see that Monk is the best thing to ever happen to the Club.
There has been a constant stream of negativity towards Laudrup,not to mention "unfounded allegations".
I'm not knocking Monk,and he has done as well as could be hoped
So,it sounds to me that you seem to have missed all the "bitching" against Laudrup.
I don't know where all this "torrent of bile puked on this forum"against Monk comes from.
I note with great interest that you make a very snide comment re Michu,who has been plagued with injury.
Your entire post is regrettable,but no doubt some of the Laudrup haters will ring your praises. I won't,however.
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Why do you make things up? Can you get what i say into some sort of context at least and perhaps i wont have to pull you up all the time <doh>
 
All I can say re: your contributions Dai, my old fruit, is several hundred posters can't be wrong :)
I mean, ****, even those who are more on your side of the argument find you laughable...<laugh>
 
Terror, well said re your reply to Stumpy, I chose to not bother, because its always our fault for sticking up for the manager others **** on. I mean its even in my posts when I am comparing, such as the whole ""This is his record since the cup final, which many would have you believe was a **** return", which just happened to be better than Monks in all comps. That is why I did it, not because I think Monk is ****, I am behind the bloke, but I am fed up to the teeth of the **** spewed, by the likes of Dai, and as you happened to point out, Stumpy as well, who also went on to compare the two and say monk saved us. Its a ****ing joke, and because you reply to them defending our past manager, who yes I am annoyed we sacke,d we get labelled as the ones who start it lol.

If they stopped getting in the sly little digs, it would never get to this point. But they are too stupid to see that.
 
DaiswanHuwsmate said:
Why do you make things up? Can you get what i say into some sort of context at least and perhaps i wont have to pull you up all the time <doh>
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The next time you "pull me up" will be the first time.

Your anti Laudrup/pro Monk stance is clear for all to see,so no-one needs to "make things up".
 
Lots of bookies not taking any bets as he's such a shoo-in. Personally I think it's a big risk. He'll have to rebuild a squad with no experience so I'd like some experience brought in in whatever backroom position.
 
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