Fair Play League Table

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CBK

CBK

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Feb 25, 2011
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What a load of old ****e this is. I know Saints would have been hit after what happened at Newcastle, plus the Clattenburg thing, but to be this far down the table is a joke. Not aware of one over the top tackle or elbow or cheating by Saints compared to well known instances by teams above us.

The Liverpool love in with officials is also backed up by this table...

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html
 
To be below West Ham, with their style of play, with Kevin Nolan in the face of officials every single game & Allardyce much the same. Laughable.
 
Pardew pushed a linesman and head butted an opponent, but Newcastle score more points for respecting refs and opponents
How are we below Chelsea in these categories?
 
You need to click on the "how it's calculated" link. It's our fault! There is a section on the public. We need to stand up and cheer when the opposition score.

There is also a mark for attractive and attacking play. Of course we should be down the league; all this passing the ball football is simply not the way to go. Lump it forward for more points.
 
Here are some interesting extracts from 'how FairPlay is calculated':

2. Positive play


Maximum score = 10
Minimum score = 1

This is designed to encourage attractive play that will increase the enjoyment of spectators and the following areas are taken into consideration:



POSITIVE

- Using attacking tactics, not defensive
- Speeding up the game
- Efforts to gain time (e.g. bringing the ball back into play quickly even if the team is in a winning position)
- Continuing to push for goals when in a winning position


NEGATIVE


- Slowing down the game
- Time wasting
- Tactics based on foul play
- Play-acting (simulation)
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4. Respect towards the referee


Maximum score = 7
Minimum score = 1

Players are expected to respect the officials - including assistants - at all times.

The Fair Play delegate’s assessment will not double count items already covered in the ‘Red and Yellow cards’ but the seriousness of the offences punished by cards may be considered

Any single major incident may have a significant bearing on the score.

A positive attitude, including the acceptance of doubtful decisions without protest, will be rewarded with high marks. Normal behaviour without any particular positive attitudes or gestures towards match officials is likely to receive a score of 6 rather than 7.
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It seems that our run in with Clattenburg is deemed worse than Andy Carroll's 'punch' on Mignolet, West Ham and a few others' poor style of football, and a team's manager, namely Pardew, head butting an opposing player. Really just shows that this list really isn't worth reading.
 
Judging the public is the most ridiculous measure of them all, closely followed by the 'be nice to the referee' category.

All those games at the start of the season when we sang "we always get **** refs" :(
 
The most disappointing bit for me is the "be nice to refs" stuff. Respect them yes, the respect campaign is important, but extra marks for being positive to them? FFS. They really are the ones last picked on the play ground aren't they?
 
CBK said:
What a load of old ****e this is. I know Saints would have been hit after what happened at Newcastle, plus the Clattenburg thing, but to be this far down the table is a joke. Not aware of one over the top tackle or elbow or cheating by Saints compared to well known instances by teams above us.

The Liverpool love in with officials is also backed up by this table...

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html
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It appears to be a Fair Play Table based on opinions and not facts as far as I can see.
http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/eng.1/barclays-premier-league?cc=5739
Gives a more balanced view.
 
I think it is most amazing that Chelsea do so well, especially with Mourinho's statements and it is ironic that Man U have dropped down the table since Alex Fergusson left... Obviously it is quite subjective and I can see why we might do worse this season than previously but it seems odd that the bottom three teams in the fair play are the ones with the least bookings!
 
It shouldn't mean a sodding thing, but I think I'm right that there "could" be a European place up for grabs when results are pooled with other uefa leagues?

Referees are paid to do their job & the accountability of their performances isn't available to the public like this table is. Why not make public the refs assessments each week? Might even improve their performances.

I reckon the "us & them" attitude between clubs & refs is kept in check more by the Refs & FA than it is by the clubs. You don't want refs being pally with certain clubs, even though its pretty clear that's always gone on.
 
CBK said:
It shouldn't mean a sodding thing, but I think I'm right that there "could" be a European place up for grabs when results are pooled with other uefa leagues?

Referees are paid to do their job & the accountability of their performances isn't available to the public like this table is. Why not make public the refs assessments each week? Might even improve their performances.

I reckon the "us & them" attitude between clubs & refs is kept in check more by the Refs & FA than it is by the clubs. You don't want refs being pally with certain clubs, even though its pretty clear that's always gone on.
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I agree. The refs association or whatever they are called should publish referee performance tables. Encouraging players, coaches, clubs to be "nice" to referees is not the way forward. Accept/respect any decisions made by all means, but no need to go any further than that.
 
The FA & refs association still seem to live by the mantra that all Referee errors are "genuine mistakes". That simply is not the case and gives incompetance a get out of jail free card.

Refs have a tough job, but doesn't mean they can't learn & improve and be more accountable. The more they hide behind crap like this table, the more the media will ride them.

Of course, some managers & players don't help things, but its the FA & PL's job to sort them out properly (they don't).
 
CBK said:
It shouldn't mean a sodding thing, but I think I'm right that there "could" be a European place up for grabs when results are pooled with other uefa leagues?

Referees are paid to do their job & the accountability of their performances isn't available to the public like this table is. Why not make public the refs assessments each week? Might even improve their performances.

I reckon the "us & them" attitude between clubs & refs is kept in check more by the Refs & FA than it is by the clubs. You don't want refs being pally with certain clubs, even though its pretty clear that's always gone on.
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You are correct, three extra Europa League spots are up for grabs, one for each of the top three leagues in the Fair Play Rankings. The highest placed team who hasn't qualified for Europe is then given a place.
 
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