The Ballot. What a joke!

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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
The club's becoming an embarrassment due mainly, but not solely, to AA & his antics. Currently any credible investors or sponsors would be mad to come near us.
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I'm not sure, it could be a cunning plan on his behalf to get the most ludicrous kind of publicity possible by any means to heighten our profile
 
Happy Tiger said:
SOme of you morons are seriously comparing this poll to the situation in Crimea? You make a good case for bringing back National Service, you are beneath contempt in fact.

So the poll, it's actually REALLY fair.

Option 1 = Yes, appeals to me, and other like minded individuals who support the club and the Allams and wouldn't break down at a name change

Option 2 = Obviously appeals to the CTWD sheep who can't face the future with a minor change to the name

Option 3 = Will appeal to the majority of the fans who actually don't give a **** one way or the other

See, that's what you ****ers don't like. They're actually giving the majority of our fans something to place a tick against. It doesn't suit you of course because you need to be able to try and force people to vote for option 2, but now, you can't. This will give the most realistic view of the fans than any simple yes to the tigers, no to the tigers woulda done, and it will hopefully at least stop you from trying to represent the majority of the fans once its released.

Like paying 2 quid, people have a REALLY clear way to express their feelings now. I'd be interested to know if the 1800 member number is actually reflected in the No vote too.

It's a gamble, of course it is, but he's just outsmarted CTWD quite brilliantly. He's even given people a week to vote in too, so if you can't make it tomorrow for whatever reason, or are away all week, you can still send in a vote and it will be counted. The ones who don't vote are quite clearly in the Option 3 camp too, they don't care, they will go regardless, because if they did care, they'd be voting for 1 or 2. It's just brilliant.

The only thing that will remain to be seen is, what will a result of option 3 mean? Hopefully it will give them a chance to figure out a way forward with them still in charge, or ideally Ehab.

I forecast options 1 and 2 will be fairly even with option 3 being way out in front.
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<laugh> You deserve points for perseverance at least.

It's a crock of **** ballot and you know it, it will be ignored by any party that the Allam's take it to try and prove a point and that is absolutely what they aim to do. They plan to scare people into voting yes, then add them to the Not Bothered to give them a total who are not against a name change. It's so ****ing childish, it's embarrassing, the press will have a field day tomorrow.

Another weekend of 'nutty owner' articles to look forward to.
 
Up until this week I'd a back the Allam's on anything other then the name change.

But this week has been shameful and embarrassing.

I shall be voting B.
 
Happy Tiger said:
SOme of you morons are seriously comparing this poll to the situation in Crimea? You make a good case for bringing back National Service, you are beneath contempt in fact.

So the poll, it's actually REALLY fair.

Option 1 = Yes, appeals to me, and other like minded individuals who support the club and the Allams and wouldn't break down at a name change

Option 2 = Obviously appeals to the CTWD sheep who can't face the future with a minor change to the name

Option 3 = Will appeal to the majority of the fans who actually don't give a **** one way or the other

See, that's what you ****ers don't like. They're actually giving the majority of our fans something to place a tick against. It doesn't suit you of course because you need to be able to try and force people to vote for option 2, but now, you can't. This will give the most realistic view of the fans than any simple yes to the tigers, no to the tigers woulda done, and it will hopefully at least stop you from trying to represent the majority of the fans once its released.

Like paying 2 quid, people have a REALLY clear way to express their feelings now. I'd be interested to know if the 1800 member number is actually reflected in the No vote too.

It's a gamble, of course it is, but he's just outsmarted CTWD quite brilliantly. He's even given people a week to vote in too, so if you can't make it tomorrow for whatever reason, or are away all week, you can still send in a vote and it will be counted. The ones who don't vote are quite clearly in the Option 3 camp too, they don't care, they will go regardless, because if they did care, they'd be voting for 1 or 2. It's just brilliant.

The only thing that will remain to be seen is, what will a result of option 3 mean? Hopefully it will give them a chance to figure out a way forward with them still in charge, or ideally Ehab.

I forecast options 1 and 2 will be fairly even with option 3 being way out in front.
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You'll be voting for option 3, then? That has been your professed stance all along.
 
Dr.Stanley O'Google said:
You'll be voting for option 3, then? That has been your professed stance all along.
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Nope, in light of CTWDs recent actions, and all the other ****e being said online, plus as I've always wanted to keep the Allams, not to mention I've said I'm happy for Hull Tigers or Hull City, or even Hull City Tigers, option 1 makes most sense for me. Not sure why you think I don't give a **** one way or the other. Have I hidden my opposition to CTWD that well?
 
This might be a bit heavy for a vote about a football team name - but it does seem a relevant issue.

Capital flight, aka, rich people threatening to leave/move if stuff doesn't go their way. It is becoming more and more prevalent. If a party floats an idea about taxing large corporations, then the large corporations come out and say "just letting you guys know, if you do that, we will move to another country and leave you in the ****". In the vote for Scottish Independence, large corporations have influence on the vote by saying "just letting you guys know, if you do that, we will move to another country and leave you in the ****".

Does that seem a little like the Allam vote?

It seems impossible to have genuine democratic votes alongside powerful, wealthy individuals who have real motivations to influence that vote.

Democratic votes should mean an equal say for each individual - not an equal say for each pound you have. If people have good arguments, then they will probably have more influence, but everybody has the same ability to voice their arguments. But this isn't how democratic votes are working right now in a lot of cases. Allam clearly has an immense amount of influence in this vote - he has more of a say than anybody else. Yet surely the point of a vote is to obtain an accurate and fair representation of views?

Probably too big of an issue within the context of this vote. But I don't like the idea of capital flight influencing opinions. Voice your opinions - that is what a vote is for.
 
Can someone try this and see if it works cos I've just added a sticky to my ballot paper and made it read No to Hull Tigers with the Allam family continuing to lead the club. I've saved it on my desktop. Not sure if it will work but if I send an email to the address could I add it as an attachment.
 
Happy Tiger said:
SOme of you morons are seriously comparing this poll to the situation in Crimea? You make a good case for bringing back National Service, you are beneath contempt in fact.

So the poll, it's actually REALLY fair.

Option 1 = Yes, appeals to me, and other like minded individuals who support the club and the Allams and wouldn't break down at a name change

Option 2 = Obviously appeals to the CTWD sheep who can't face the future with a minor change to the name

Option 3 = Will appeal to the majority of the fans who actually don't give a **** one way or the other

See, that's what you ****ers don't like. They're actually giving the majority of our fans something to place a tick against. It doesn't suit you of course because you need to be able to try and force people to vote for option 2, but now, you can't. This will give the most realistic view of the fans than any simple yes to the tigers, no to the tigers woulda done, and it will hopefully at least stop you from trying to represent the majority of the fans once its released.

Like paying 2 quid, people have a REALLY clear way to express their feelings now. I'd be interested to know if the 1800 member number is actually reflected in the No vote too.

It's a gamble, of course it is, but he's just outsmarted CTWD quite brilliantly. He's even given people a week to vote in too, so if you can't make it tomorrow for whatever reason, or are away all week, you can still send in a vote and it will be counted. The ones who don't vote are quite clearly in the Option 3 camp too, they don't care, they will go regardless, because if they did care, they'd be voting for 1 or 2. It's just brilliant.

The only thing that will remain to be seen is, what will a result of option 3 mean? Hopefully it will give them a chance to figure out a way forward with them still in charge, or ideally Ehab.

I forecast options 1 and 2 will be fairly even with option 3 being way out in front.
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How can it be a fair vote when its preceded by "As widely reported over the course of the past 6 months, we have made an application to
the FA to register the club’s playing name as Hull Tigers, from next season. This is to capitalise
on the club’s strong brand heritage of being the Tigers, to generate much needed additional
revenues and to provide the club with every opportunity to sustain Premier League status.
As a season card holder, you are our most valued customer and we therefore ask you to
support our aspirations for the longer term sustainability of the club. The playing and global
television broadcasting name, being at the very heart of this strategy" which is a clear one-sided steer on how to vote. Do voting systems for the general election,local government etc allow the incumbent party to preface the ballot by their own propaganda.Think the answer is NO NO NO.
 
Gawge said:
This might be a bit heavy for a vote about a football team name - but it does seem a relevant issue.

Capital flight, aka, rich people threatening to leave/move if stuff doesn't go their way. It is becoming more and more prevalent. If a party floats an idea about taxing large corporations, then the large corporations come out and say "just letting you guys know, if you do that, we will move to another country and leave you in the ****". In the vote for Scottish Independence, large corporations have influence on the vote by saying "just letting you guys know, if you do that, we will move to another country and leave you in the ****".

Does that seem a little like the Allam vote?

It seems impossible to have genuine democratic votes alongside powerful, wealthy individuals who have real motivations to influence that vote.

Democratic votes should mean an equal say for each individual - not an equal say for each pound you have. If people have good arguments, then they will probably have more influence, but everybody has the same ability to voice their arguments. But this isn't how democratic votes are working right now in a lot of cases. Allam clearly has an immense amount of influence in this vote - he has more of a say than anybody else. Yet surely the point of a vote is to obtain an accurate and fair representation of views?

Probably too big of an issue within the context of this vote. But I don't like the idea of capital flight influencing opinions. Voice your opinions - that is what a vote is for.
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Capital idea, Gawge. <ok>
 
swftiger said:
How can it be a fair vote when its preceded by "As widely reported over the course of the past 6 months, we have made an application to
the FA to register the club&#8217;s playing name as Hull Tigers, from next season. This is to capitalise
on the club&#8217;s strong brand heritage of being the Tigers, to generate much needed additional
revenues and to provide the club with every opportunity to sustain Premier League status.
As a season card holder, you are our most valued customer and we therefore ask you to
support our aspirations for the longer term sustainability of the club. The playing and global
television broadcasting name, being at the very heart of this strategy" which is a clear one-sided steer on how to vote. Do voting systems for the general election,local government etc allow the incumbent party to preface the ballot by their own propaganda.Think the answer is NO NO NO.
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Oh no, they've set out their side of the argument. How dare they. Only CTWD are allowed to put their side of the argument, and anyone who disagrees with CTWD is a ****wit/idiot/plastic (delete as appropriate).

They've put their side, they've given people 3 options and thats still not enough for some.
 
Anybody know what the deal is with corporate season tickets?

I believe that various companies (major sponsors such as Ideal, MKM etc...) have a number of season tickets as part of their sponsorship deals. Are they allowed to vote using their substantial quantity of season tickets?
 
Their is 12 of us that meet up every home game all 12 of us is against the name change but only 4 of us wear the no to hull tigers gear . My phone has been red hot tonight with the other 8 up in arms and they have gone from didn't want the name change but would of put up with it to really pissed off with the name change so thanks mr Allam that 12 votes for no to hull tigers . Job done
 
All I can say to the ballot is:

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Honestly, who the **** comes up with this ****?! <laugh>

I'm going to have my own poll, and it's twice as fair:
a) Yes to Hull Tigers
b) My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard
c) The Central African Republic
 
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